Graves Counter Stats
Gravesthe Outlaw | Ranked #30 out of 73 in Jungle
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Graves In the Jungle Counters: 94,548 50,995 25,857 12,972 3,496 1,228 matches, 43 counter champions
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Tips Against Graves in the Jungle Tips Provided by MOBAFire Guide Authors
Janooobi says “Make sure to land your Q or he will be able to kite you and deal a lot of damage and potentially kill you”
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zidalee says “Low gap closer, has good movement on the map, good burst so try to avoid in the early game, and scale.”
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Ferra says “Graves is by far the toughest matchups if you pick ivern, you better ban him.”
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officialwiseguy says “His Smoke Screen is annoying and he has alot of Dmg but since he has no CC, you can dodge alot of his spells or negate damage with your W.”
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BreadedBreadCrum says “Graves is one of your highest counters. He does INSANE damage, even early on. Scales high. High health and survivability with his Immortal Shieldbow build. Can run Serpent's Fang and can delete you in two shots. That, already, is insane. BUT WAIT, there's more! He can push Daisy back before she can use her knock-up, disrupting your combo. His dash can dodge your CC and can close the distance between you and him, so it's hard to kite him out. His insane early clear speeds also means he can take your blue before you can even come back to get it on your first clear. The only thing you have over him is that his E only gives armor, and not MR, so hitting your abilities and locking him down can get him killed. Ban worthy. Aery Inspiratin. For AP, go CotSQ or Everfrost. Liandry's is also nice. Sup, go Moonstone to counter Serpent's(kinda).”
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Consolo says “Honestly depends on the Graves, if you can get him behind he is turboworthless, but good Graves players won't let you get them behind. Try to counterjungle as much as you can, and take objectives while he's weak. Counterganking a great option into him, as he has no escape. Threat scales with your rank.”
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White Cr0w says “He is countered by you, specially on the early stages of the game. He is squishy, and if you find him using skills to farm on jungle, he is dead. Be sure to NOT letting him free farm into midgame.”
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FacetLOL says “Just wait for his E stacks to run out as you wont be able to kill him if he has high stacks as his armor will be way too high in the early/mid/late game.”
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Scythe Prince says “hardest counter to Kayn.
You cannot beat Graves early to mid game due to the additional armor he gets from his Quickdraw (E). If he invades you, you have to give up your jungle camps unless your team decides to come and collapse on him. Once you reach the late game you can start considering to duel him as Shadow Assassin if he has no stacks on his Quickdraw (E). If you chose Rhaast, ensure the survival of your team by peeling for them.”
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OTP Toxin says “Run in his direction and blind him, that's right, run in his direction, 'cause he will throw the smoke where you are OR in your back thinking that you will run away when you see him.”
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Zehmox says “Outpaths you 9/10 but if you get a few items and survive the early game vs graves you usually oneshot him with prowler's and edge. if they build shieldbow go for a serpent fang 2nd”
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Christianxox1 says “He out ranges and scales you try not to 1v1 him and stay out if his range”
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JayKm1 says “Can use his smoke when your in a bush so you cant jump to him. Can also clear way faster than you. ”
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Tiger-Moose says “Can kite you brutally. His W also makes it hard for you to aim your Q and E.”
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Very Last Cat says “i usually ban this cause if he w´s some bushes you can play and the armor gain on his e makes lethality useless and he always out dps u”
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Zero macro says “Rlly strong early with good movement on the map. Try to avoid his counterjungling style. many jungle camp swaps will happen in this matchup depended on allied and enemy teams that help him invade level 1.”
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MrMeem45 says “Major if he takes ignite. The only thing you have to keep in mind with graves is not to fight him when his grit is up. See those circles around his feet? If you see those, just don't. It should be smooth sailing from there if they're not there. If he has ignite, he's going to cheese you at your red or he's going to cheese your teammates. Ward it and don't get caught off guard by the insane burst.”
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b0n0 says “I ban Graves every game. First off the champ goes all over the place and trackign early is hard. Is he invading you? Is he vertical jungling? Is he gnaking level 2?
He scales better and also is stronger I believe at most points of the game.
Vi's bread and butter is getting on top of someone and beating the shit out of them. Graves mobility, armor, damage basically just negate Vi's kit, ban dodge or enjoy loss. ”
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Very Last Cat says “i usually ban this cause if he w´s some bushes you can play and the armor gain on his e makes lethality useless and he always out dps u
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bigbeanboi4 says “up hill battle for you, super difficult to not just get kitted and die use phase rush to try and remedy ”
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HAMMERSLAYER says “A very strong and active jungle pick that can 1v1 Xin Zhao at the right circumstances, he has very fast clear and will attemp to gank semi-extended lanes or he will just try to harash them in order to give an edge to his team during the early and mid game.”
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Elekktro says “A good Graves player will out farm you and permanently invade all game. He can also kite Viego very easily and dodge your W. Graves is my personal perma ban.”
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Believe Weiss says “Graves can be very hard for Vi because if he hits his smokescreen on you while using your Q you almost never know where he is ”
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uSgSello says “Losing matchup.
Graves wins trades in the early game because he has more damage than you and is not as squishy as you. Even in mid game if he builds Maw you can't win the trades.”
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Sandor Clegane98 says “The lane is in your favor since hes very short-ranged,once he gets pulled wait for half a second and apply a w to deny him an escape and finish him off.
Dshield or Dblade.”
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sonminh says “Don't fight him early. 2v2 is possible if coordination is right and you have the first attack. Don't try to match full clear with him; he is way faster. Look for counter ganks, Graves can only gank if your laners are extremely vulnerable. Later in the game, picking him off is easy. Focus him first and play front to back if possible.”
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Jrift says “Very kite heavy and scales just as well as you both forms is a pain to deal with and a one trick will 1v9”
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Destruuu says “He will counter jungle you a lot! Take care and ask your team to put wards around your jungle entrance.”
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J98TheGreat says “This is more so between a 4 and 5. This is a tough champion to outdo as Graves is one of the strongest champions right now. The better player here should win, but if he isn't bad he isn't going to make the mistakes that you need for him to not be more impactful than you later in the game. This is going to be a ban for your team more so than for yourself as your third ban option.”
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NMFO says “You can beat graves' ass early as with your E and Q he can't kite away that effectively, however once graves has an item or two he just can stat check you. A good graves knows to not fight trundle early and to just counter-jg and farm for one item, at which point trundle becomes effectively useless into graves. ”
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Obwatching says “Graves has always been a problem one of your worst fears”
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gelz_4 says “If he uses his smoke u dont know where to Q and u are superslow aswell so its super annoying to fight Graves and he gennerly is a counter with his early on damage u could maybe fight him but its really hard and his e can dodge ur q”
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OnslaughtOfPwnys says “He has great damage in every game phase. As long as he is not fed, he won't be a problem to you. Avoid fighting him when he builds Immortal Shield Bow.”
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Ghionova says “Vision loss, DR buff with stacked E, 2 auto hits and youre dead when hes fed. Ask your allies to help if you go into his jungle and try to make his life worse.”
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leoviniciux says “Possui bom clear de jungle, ganha armadura e dá muito dano.”
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GranadaExperimental says “Based on my experience fighting Graves with Kayn, I can deduce that giving a 1v1 fight against him is very dangerous since unless "Graves" makes some kind of mistake or barely knows how to play his champion, most of the time, Kayn lose due to high Graves damage”
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Brosinex says “Te invadirá constantemente si es bueno y antes del infierno a veces, incluso después de las 6 tienes que darle los campamentos. No trates de pelear con él en la escotilla, especialmente si hizo caminatas sobre el agua, solo ve al otro. Lo superas en escala a menos que todo lo que haga sea cultivar, entonces siempre estará un nivel por encima de ti.”
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King Fidd says “Graves is a strong early game duelist who is also a ticking time bomb due to his insane late game, where he becomes insanely tanky with huge dps. The only option is to hopefully outpace him mid game once you have ultimate.”
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Da Mastah says “As long as your going on hit and he doesn't have a huge lead you should be able to beat him in all stages of the game. The only way he can get a significant lead is to gank or dive other lanes, so make sure you contest him whenever he's looking to make plays.”
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Spection says “Dangerous champion. Starts red usually, can probbaly take blue. Will most likely try to counterjungle you so do it back to him. He is unduelable for you at all points of the game and can dodge your E every time, so only throw it out wheen you know his E is down or he is stunned by Daisy or an ally. ”
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L9 TURBOTROLL says “You absolutely destroy this champion. He cannot do anything against your blind. You could think about maxing Q into him.”
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The Elysian1 says “Not a big deal , he will probably powerfarm like Evelynn and just scale till late. Recent nerfs made his early weak , but in late he can be a problem. Buy Serpant if he has Shieldbow. His ganks ain't the best , but he can clear with ulty. You have more impacth on the game so focus on ganking.
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HellhoundHDD says “He is Mobile, Ranged and his smokescreen is terrible to deal with a good graves will kite you to death because he is a "balanced" champion”
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zLuxfury says “Graves is probably your worst matchup, he can blind you and destroy you while you do only a bit of damage cause of his E, you can't do much if he is ahead.”
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KafueLechwe says “Like any early game jungler, Graves is really scary for Sion, especially since Graves can stack armor before fighting him. When against a Graves, play safe until you get your Titanic Hydra, as then you will be able to dish out a ton of damage on him.”
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Zyvran says “He is you but stronger. You don't beat Graves at any point in the game unless you're fed. He blinds you early and one shots you late.”
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Dreamycake says “Invade king. Do your best to survive till you get your form and you can duel him.”
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Citric says “Against the perfect Graves player, you will never have a good early game. Watch out for his early invades with wards at the entrance of your jungle. He also kites you hard so if you fall behind you will almost never comeback. Graves likes to either level 1 late invade or level 2 invade after doing his red. ”
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IMissedMyQ says “This is as close to a skill matchup as it can get. Both of you are very vulnerable to each other. If graves gets the jump on you, then you will never be able to kill him (unless you have a big lead). If you get the jump on him, he's forced to retreat or die. Always be on the lookout to pounce on him. Never be caught with your pants down.”
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Tchouvline says “Most likely a skill matchup, avoid his W and you should be fine.”
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Pusi Puu says “beats you almost everytime and can smokescreen your bush so you can't jump. Try to fight him when he has no passive stacks and preferably when you have 4 stacks. Oneshot is possible at lvl 6 when you catch him in river with full ferocity. Dont flip a invade vs graves since he either beats you or just outruns you with phase rush.”
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Pullks says “If skilled he can kite you, dodge your W and generally kill you. He scales incredibly well and is always stealing camps. ”
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Doubtfull says “Graves historically struggles with AP jungle match ups. This one is a little tricky as you much be in his auto range in order to Q, but with the right micro you can dodge the back end of his Q and pop him. If you have a heavy AP team he can stack MR and make this match up pretty difficult. ”
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RactickTTV says “Graves biggest threat to Kayn is his E (Quickdraw) increases his armor making it hard to one shot him. He will also be able to kite Rhaast very easily. I would avoid fighting him at any point in the early game. Later on, you can one shot him with Shadow Assassin as long as his E (Quickdraw) isn't stacked”
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LambWolf says “Don't duel graves if he has many e stacks. Right click him to check if he has alot of them. You can win fight against him if he doesn't have e stacks before fight.”
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NixLychee says “He will kite you, even with your gap closers, and he will power farm and scale, allowing for better fighting late. He's strong both early and late, so be careful with him. His bonus armor makes him incredibly tanky, but you can still duel him early game if you manage to dodge his Q damage. Don't let him farm freely.”
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KamiKZ says “Very annoying to deal with, but you can change your playstyle to get the upper hand. Get the jump on him first and use Void Assault to stop him from auto attacking you. Just be wary when jumping on him, he can easily dash away which leaves you vulnerable if you do not have Void Assault. Also be mindful of how tanky he can become while still dealing damage with the tankiness from True Grit (passive), Challenging smite, Ninja Tabis, Phantom Dancer, Deaths Dance, Maw or more which negate your burst. Challenging smite and Q evolve will make a big difference in dueling him.”
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LordGrox says “Will kite you around and generally has better damage. Shieldbow gives him sustain and his W will deny you proper engages”
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SnowballBarrage says “Graves is very strong, his high mobility makes running away very hard and he can kill you early if you get caught with no flash. ”
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Riealone says “Take Ghost and run him down when you see an opportunity. He has high damage, armor and mobility, so be careful”
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Veralion says “Graves isn't doing too well right now. His strengths are clear speed and clear safety, not ganking, much like you. Just respect him and condede crabs until 6 if necessary as usual. Don't let him proc phase rush or he will probably run you down, he's absolutely nuts with that rune. Stay well away from him while he has red. Both of you occupy the niche of scaling objective-based junglers. He farms camps way faster than you do, but you beat him in objective damage. That clear speed of his lets him snowball exceptionally hard if he gets lucky with a good early game, and he will become fast enough to clear half of your jungle on top of his with every rotation. Graves players counterjungle to an obnoxious degree. Things become unmanageable at this point without catchup XP. Make sure that when he's thinking about your gromp, you're thinking about his drake. ”
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Doubtfull says “Rek'sai loses this match up at all points in the game. Graves outfarms rek'sai, and 3/4 abilities in his kit help him kite you. He also gets insane amounts of armor from his grit passive. This is my priority ban if I want to play rek'sai in high elo. Less of a threat the further down the ladder you are, as players aren't as good at kiting.”
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nZk01 says “very hard to play against, try to focus on objectives and ganks, he outscales you super hard and early on hes hard to deal with because of his E armor.”
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Tormentula says “Elise can only beat him early on. Mid and Late game he will outscale her, have significantly higher farm than her, carry better than her, and overall just outclass her after his first item if he got to chill and farm. His smokescreen actually counters Rappel since if he drops it in the center, Elise still cannot see anything while in Rappel, and he can dodge Cocoon with his E while killing all spiderlings with Q. Best bet is to Rappel the explosion of his Q, wait for him to waste E to Cocoon him, and abuse him early game while he's weak. ”
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IMissedMyQ says “Graves is very tough. He has a strong level 2 to match you, and he is very slippery. His high damage and high mobility makes him perfect for countering your kit. The best thing you can do is look to counter gank him. If you're able to catch him by surprise, you may be able to effectively handle him.”
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FREAKSTAR says “Scary champion, good Graves players are VERY aggressive. They will try to fight you all game long, you don't really want the 1v1.
Outrun them farm whatever they dont and if they invade you, invade them opposide side.
Keep track of them and keep your distance, you will outscale.
Late game when Graves is trying to team fight, your E damage will completely destroy him and his teammates.
This is one of the matchups that determines how good your Shyvana is.”
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Kocykek says “You can W his E and his mobility is gone. Try not to get kited and don't let him stack armor.”
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LukaBre123 says “Graves has a lot of burst both in the early and the late game and has his E ability that can be used to dodge your CC.”
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Doubtfull says “Graves can be annoying with early invades, but post that you win the match up. Play around this by getting a leash and using pinks to guard your entrances. In the late game lock him down and take him out.”
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Goldenstinger says “Not as tough - will invade you early. I usually ask for a leash in this match up to ensure i get buffs off the table in time. Ward your opposing buff with a control ward and counter jungle if required. If your lanes have prio ping him counter jungling for a free kill. ”
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Asternova says “RUNES: Phase Rush. Dark Harvest if possible.
ITEMS: Zhonya's. Plated Steelcaps if his team is full of AD.
GAMEPLAY SUMMARY: Graves is a very consistent champion, good at all stages in the game depending on the situation, avoid letting him get fed, as that might be the end of the line for you. Be aware of potential invades, ask your team for help if you see him coming, otherwise, just run. Use your movement speed to dodge his Q and smoke screen, kite him since his auto attack range is quite small, he also has no way of dodging your ult in his kit (hooray!), and since he's quite squishy, that might result on him getting one-shotted.”
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MiningRicK says “He is Graves, and he will kill all Monsters until the game is over (Powerfarmer). So he will also kill your jungle Monsters and he can 1vs1 you. Try to fight him with your Teammates together that will be succesful.”
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Whynotbefriends says “I put him in Major as he becomes hard to deal with until you are extremely good at Nidalee, then he goes down to a 3. similar to Lillia in the respect of needing to outclear him, early fights are yours if you get the initiative.”
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WildeBob says “POWERFARM IF YOU SEE THIS DUDE, YOU CAN 1V1 HIM THO IF YOU GET THE JUMP ON HIM. (E.G. UR HIDING IN A BUSH AND HE FACECHECKS)”
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Insightful says “Graves is a hard matchup because he has a lot of mobility, can clear fast and he can easily break your tempo by invading, if he scales he just 1 shots you. ”
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freddy66623 says “One of your banes! he can invade you and burst you. He doesnt need his blue as bad but will be able to destroy you.”
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Insightful says “Hard matchup early on, he can easily invade you and take your camps, it's important that he doesn't get ahead, then you'll be fine
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AvidPanda says “Pretty big skill matchup. He can invade you early, but isn't too strong. If you get a lead then you can bully him out of the game.”
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Simple Shawn says “do. not. 1v1. him until full build, you have to go in melee to taunt him and he has to go in melee to deal more damage, the only way you beat him is to get frozen heart last item”
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Slash And Dash says “Bait out Graves' E and land your W stun and you'll crush him, no issues.”
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SaltCat says “He wins 1v1 early game, care for invades early on, just try to avoid him in general you can kill him later”
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NamaeWaMitsurii says “Graves is rather one-dimensional with his simple slow and Q Damage. Get in range of him and its a pretty simple fight. CC will make him lose everything.”
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tobbtobbler says “Graves, Kindred, Elise, Udyr, and other high-tempo early game junglers will shut you out of the early game if they play correctly. Ward your camps and ask laners to rotate if they invade, but try not to get into a fight with them pre-titanic if it’s not a guaranteed 2v1.”
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Kayncer says “Watch out for his early invade, he is stronger than you since he can out kite you and deal massive damage, Both builds work here!”
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MakataUrugami says “If the enemy abuses you before Lv6 you could be beaten.”
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Purruichi says “Against Graves and all hyperfarming junglers just abuse in early game, and steal them as much of his jungle as you can.”
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snappythesnap says “graves can also beat you in early and late game, ask for help to kill graves ”
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Karasmai says “[b]Please ban this champ [/b]there is very little to no counterplay if you don't ban him. I suggest dodging if some reason you didn't do either of these get ready for 15 minutes of the most unenjoyable experience you’ve ever had. If you manage to beat a Graves you probably went Rhaast and team fought better but you also probably had a better team so just ban him to save yourself.”
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MexBookMaster says “Banealo el 100% de las veces. No hay mucho que decir de este match, siempre que quiera invadirte lo hará y tendrás que cederle tu jungla porque si quieres pelear el te matará. Shadow Assassin (Azul) tiene mayor probabilidad de ganar que Rhaast debido a que Graves te puede Kaitear hasta el infinito.”
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Exoslol says “Graves is the champion I ban 100% of the time. Graves makes your life miserable. He will kite you around and outsustain you after he finishes his Death's Dance combined with red smite. If graves goes Phase rush the only way to fight him is getting the Phase rush on cooldown or have your laners CC him so he can not escape. If you meet him 1v1 the only way you kill him is if you get the first combo in from an unwarded area. I don't think this matchup is playable though as he 9/10x outperforms you later on in the game while being unkillabe.”
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UDYSOF_OCE says “Graves dueling destroys Jarvan but graves does not gank effectively.”
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BullwhipGriffin says “Graves is the closest it comes to a skill matchup, jungle matchup is determined by ganks, Warwick can't kill Graves cause Graves kites Warwick and runs away however Graves can't kill Warwick cause Warwick will kill Graves if he tries. Best possible time to kill is a level 3 invade by playing out of vision in a bush and following his dash with "Q"”
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gankyourgrandma says “Pretty big skill matchup. He can invade you early, but isn't too strong. If you get a lead then you can bully him out of the game.”
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ak521 says “Very easy matchup. You can tank most of his damage, land your Q on him in a team fight and he's dead easily. Strong early game and good 1v1 strategy against many champions who are in similar line or behind. So as long as you put enough pressure on Graves and remember to gank your teammates, you should end up fine.”
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Crazyavenger20 says “And kite you well and late-game nearly impossible to kill.”
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Frozerlol says “Okayish matchup against a decent Graves we have the better clear, so try to cheese him. Avoid walls and his w later ”
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Rhoku says “Graves is one of the more problematic junglers to deal with due to how slippery he potentially can be. He isn't the best kiter due to his lower range but if he outplays your pull with his dash, then you pretty much can't do anything against him unless you have Ghost. He scales up very well but he can't really oneshot you if you tank up. Getting to him is the difficult part. He can also outplay your ultimate with his smokescreen. His clear is better and he is more mobile around the map. You must force him into a corner and kill him at some point. He is also difficult to kill during invades as he stacks his E armor up.”
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Kayncer says “He scales a lot and has the range + Kiting Advantage his early is also not bad, careful around him!
Is easier to kill as Blue Kayn but still Kayn Struggles here, I personally always ban him or nocturne playing Kayn.
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Pyroen says “This is more of a skill matchup - Graves needs farm to be effective, similar to Nidalee. If you can map his route and counter jungle you can reach your early spikes faster that him. Be careful when engaging him 1v1 in the jungle since he has a relatively safe clear he should always be close to full hp.
Once you have runic echoes and Sorc boots - land that spear and end his reign of terror.
(remember to always clean up his camps when you've taken him off the map)”
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DjapeFromSerbia says “Can invade Evelynn early, but if played around you can oneshot him in mid/late game.”
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Insightful says “Graves is hard to deal with in the jungle, he has a very strong early game and scales even better, try to avoid his invades and don't fight early, focus on teamfighting with your R up
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izzlelol says “He will constantly invade you if he's good and pre 6 hell sometimes even after 6 you have to give the camps to him. Don't try to fight him at scuttle especially if he took waterwalking just go to the other one. You outscale him unless all he does is farm then he will always be a level over you.”
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OsakaSatang says “Electro+inspiration
he is fair squishy before he gets shieldbow. Can contest crab. You can easily kill him once u hit 6 but he has high damage, so be careful.”
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ChirasaTheQueen says “Outgank him. Graves players are mainly farmers, if you play your cards right and get your lanes ahead it's free game.”
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Lambda Diana says “Graves will try to counter jg and invade you I think the match up is fav for Diana since his E gives armor and not mr. If he gets ahead he will one shot you hourglass is great if he does build mr void is great too. ”
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aurus666lol says “They have nerfed some builds, runes etc, but he still clear very fast and still can cheese you like Kindred. If he goes Phase Rush, it will be hard to escape from him, even if he doesn't play Flash (ignite instead). Try to get kill lead on scuttle fight by calling your midlaner/toplaner or both , so he will be easy target.”
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ItsSkoob says “Graves can kite you out as well as burst you down, terrible matchup”
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temmykusaii says “ah yes, malcom. i strongly hate graves in general so i usually ban him, you should too. graves is graves you kinda just lose but have a strong chance of winning if he uses e incorrectly. your e counters his e
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lukuluku says “He will powerfarm for the most game. Try to stack up objectives and get your lanes ahead. I think the champion is just trash. ”
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Sammystinky says “He gains armor from passive which doesn't help him from you. But depending on his build he can give you trouble and pinning him down is hard. ”
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Ellesmere says “Much like Kindred, Graves can kite you fairly well while doing lots of damage to you. He's also annoyingly tanky so unless you have a clear advantage, don't mess with him too much. Focus on getting lanes ahead and counter ganking.”
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lightrocket2 says “He does ridiculous damage up close and has a dash so 1v1's are very very difficult. Try to play for objectives because you do scale better but he's overturned and can easily get ahead. Run phase rush”
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colingogo says “Invades you and can itemize MR easily. If you get a lead early somehow he cannot play the game.”
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SketchtheHunter says “Graves can be tricky if he's played well. You need to know when to back off with this one as he can kite you pretty hard. ”
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Very Rxre says “Olaf loses to invade/vertical jg champs like kindred, graves, nidalee. If he has double lane prio he is a nightmare to deal with. u can 1v1 him but his smokescreen is cancer and u might lose 2v2 because of that ability. Some of the graves players go smite ignite, if he does that u can't 1v1 him.”
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Nex1n says “Graves has a lot of early damage and early presence. ”
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Hynder says “He can kite you very well and thanks to his E, he scales armor so he is more difficult to deal in 1 vs 1.
So gank a lot and make other lanes win. You don't really want a fight versus him.”
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Chrosser says “Intenta esquivar su bomba de humo ya que si logra metértela lo mas probable es que mueras. No intentes forzar una pelea contra el, es poco probable que ganes.”
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FrostForest says “Can dodge your EQ and run you down
You never beat him 1v1 unless you burst him or get the jump on him
Watch for his stacks on his E and what runes he has”
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Suseri says “His Smoke Screen is annoying and he has alot of Dmg but since he has no CC, you can dodge alot of his spells or negate damage with your W.”
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Irmike78 says “The best tip here is to time your W and E's right to avoid his kit. Match up depends on who out plays who. His dash is on a shorter cool down early game then Gwen's so play with caution as he can easily dodge Gwen Q which is all her dmg”
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manco1 says “Graves farms VERY VERY fast, and is rather tanky for a ranged champion. Make sure to use your blind wisely to be able to beat him! ”
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RichMrFork says “Can use his terrain scaling to get creative invade and gank paths. Graves has many different builds and options to go each game. He can go Phase Rush or Fleet, Flash or Ignite, or even invade you level 2 or at your second buff. He can become extremely hard to kill if he goes Shieldbow paired with his mobility. You have a much stronger gank presence over him so make sure to be proactive on the map because Graves will outfarm you. Try to keep the same gameplan as harder matchups, survive the early levels and use your better gank threat to get your lanes ahead so Graves has a harder time farming, soloing objectives and invading you.”
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Gedrah says “Graves has a lot of early damage and early presence. He can easily burst and follow sejuani across the map. Be careful when trading against him. Start on the opposite side of the map and don't fight him unless you can outnumber him.”
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Kayn Mains says “Definitely the worst matchup for Kayn. You cannot beat Graves early to mid game due to the additional armor he gets from his Quickdraw (E).
Make sure to avoid him. If he invades you, you have no other choice but to give up your jungle camps unless your team decides to come and collapse on him.
Once you reach the late game you can start considering to duel him as Shadow Assassin if he has no stacks on his Quickdraw (E). If you chose Rhaast, ensure the survival of your team by peeling for them.”
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LilPaniniUwU says “He will kite you, even with your gap closers, and he will power farm and scale, allowing for better fighting late. He's strong both early and late, so be careful with him. His bonus armor makes him incredibly tanky, but you can still duel him early game if you manage to dodge his Q damage.
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metalhydra273 says “I'd say Graves marks the true even point of jungle matchups in this guide. He can be hard to kill sometimes, is fresh fodder others. You have means to outplay him and run him down thanks to your spire speed in a 1v1, and you can also kill him easily with ult, but if he gets ahead it can be trouble. Limit his early game capabilities and look to be more useful than him throughout the game by getting objective prio early and force him to try to contest.”
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CommanderCalLofL says “If you can hit q's while blinded this is easy, just watch out early on your second buff will come for the kill”
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Jinx_48 says “ Basicly every kayn main tolding thats most threat beacuase he have poke and hight damage so i addint this there.”
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AggroBeat says “Graves is really strong, but if you get your stun out on him, he can't really do much. Don't get this guy fed.”
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mgutis says “Graves is extremely dangerous, he beats you 1v1 at all stages of the game, can invade you at will, and at 1 item has better skirmishing, need stopwatch ASAP”
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LilPaniniUwU says “Definitely the worst matchup for Kayn. You cannot beat Graves early to mid game due to the additional armor he gets from his Quickdraw (E). Make sure to avoid him. If he invades you, you have no other choice but to give up your jungle camps unless your team decides to come and collapse on him. Once you reach the late game you can start considering to duel him as Shadow Assassin if he has no stacks on his Quickdraw (E). If you chose Rhaast, ensure the survival of your team by peeling for them.
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Ir.Defender says “Graves got nothing special for dueling Xin Zhao, must be easy target on most of times.”
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PulseBeat_02 says “This will not be a fun matchup with you. He can easily dodge your Q with his withdraw. You can Black Shield his smoke canister, (because it deals magic damage), but nothing else, because they deal physical damage. Try building Rod of Ages early after you get your jungle item.”
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Aqua Dragon says “Graves is a pretty annoying early bully, but Voidlings are able to eat up a lot of the autoattack damage. Graves is also pretty dependent on getting an early lead to succeed, and tends not to focus on objectives too much, granting Malzahar ample time to sneak some dragons.”
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KhaZix Mains says “[5/10] Can be very annoying to deal with but you can change your playstyle to get have better odds against him. You can try to get the jump on him first and use Void Assault to stop him from auto attacking you, just be wary as he can easily dash away which leaves you vulnerable if you do not have Void Assault. Prowler can be viable for getting on top of him without having to use Leap as well as Serpent's Fang for breaking through his Shieldbow.
Also take note of how tanky he can become while still dealing damage with the tankiness from True Grit and his itemization choices which negate your burst. Q evolve can make a big difference in dueling him. It’s recommended to pick up Conqueror in this matchup and evolve R into W to provide utility to your team and minimize some of his mobility. ”
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limeia says “
Dégâts élevés en début / milieu de partie. Mais à la fin, vous pouvez facilement le oneshot”
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auileta says “With an early lead, you can bully him. He might invade, so give camps if needed, but he is otherwise weak.”
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Nanelol says “He becomes really tanky with his Passive stacked so becareful with that, and care if u jump on him he can easily dash away.”
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Ejsner says “Conqueror suggested. Graves is my permabanned champion every single time I queue up for ranked no matter the elo. Graves is just a complete counter to Rengar all together. Reason being, If Rengar leaps, all Graves needs to do is W Rengar, and E away from him. Graves's ultimate ability, (R) also knocks him back away from Rengar's chase, and his Q is a direct shot in the direction he points, which will ricochet if bounced off a wall, which will do tons of damage to Rengar. And that's not even the bad part. Graves can stack up Armor with his E, so when stacked up, he will take NO damage from Rengar what so ever. ”
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Ejsner says “Conqueror suggested. Graves is just a complete counter to Rengar all together. Reason being, If Rengar leaps, all Graves needs to do is W Rengar, and E away from him. Graves's ultimate ability, (R) also knocks him back away from Rengar's chase, and his Q is a direct shot in the direction he points, which will ricochet if bounced off a wall, which will do tons of damage to Rengar. And that's not even the bad part. Graves can stack up Armor with his E, so when stacked up, he will take NO damage from Rengar what so ever. ”
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Nanelol says “Losing matchup. Graves wins trades in the early game because he has more damage than you and is not as squishy as you. Even in mid game if he builds Maw you can't win the trades. Try to hit your cocoon after he used his Dash (E).”
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Heccie says “He can smokescreen a bush so you can't jump to anyone, try not to fight him unless you have 4 stacks already and ignite or exhaust.”
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Eagzey says “One of the worst matchups for Shaco. Any champ with a dash is hard to 1v1, makes it even harder with emberknife (red smite), his W gives him time to reposition/damage, can one-shot us with a proper combo. ”
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uSgSello says “Graves is able to dodge your combo. He is able to kite and has a lot of damage. Try to countergank him. Prevent fighting.”
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Rasta Rengar says “Hailblade + go dead mans plate & chemtank. He wont be able to kite you then”
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Maverka88 says “Really easy matchup for you, just dont fall behind and be prepared for his invades. ”
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aurus666lol says “Emmmm, he is clearing fast. He is dealing huge dmg, he can 100-0 you with Q and two autos BUT you have bigger mobility than him, which is good because he needs to shoot twice and reload. In this time, you can dash away, cast spear and jump on him to enter the fight again. Fun fact: It's the most known matchup for Esport matches. ”
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BlackFalcon2005 says “Graves has 3 out of 4 abilities meant for kiting, so it's rough.”
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theceasrsalad says “you beat him early if you get on top of him just be careful mid game thats when hes objectively stronger than you at range.”
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legendtomi1 says “Graves is the closest it comes to a skill matchup, jungle matchup is determined by ganks, Warwick can't kill Graves cause Graves kites Warwick and runs away however Graves can't kill Warwick cause Warwick will kill Graves if he tries. Best possible time to kill is a level 3 invade by playing out of vision in a bush and following his dash with "Q"”
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14yo sad lulu says “ENG: Definitely the worst matchup for Kayn. You cannot beat Graves early to mid game due to the additional armor he gets from his Quickdraw (E). Make sure to avoid him. If he invades you, you have no other choice but to give up your jungle camps unless your team decides to come and collapse on him. Once you reach the late game you can start considering to duel him as Shadow Assassin if he has no stacks on his Quickdraw (E). If you chose Rhaast, ensure the survival of your team by peeling for them.
(RU: Определенно худший матчап для Кайна. Вы не можете победить Грейвса в начале и середине игры из-за дополнительной брони, которую он получает от своего Quickdraw (E). Постарайся избегать его. Если он нападет на вас, у вас нет другого выбора, кроме как отказаться от своих лагерей в джунглях, если только ваша команда не решит прийти и обрушиться на него. Как только вы дойдете до конца игры, вы можете начать рассматривать возможность дуэли с ним в качестве Теневого Убийцы, если у него нет стеков на его Quickdraw (E). Если вы выбрали Rhaast, обеспечьте выживание своей команды, очистив их.)”
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RedNBlue says “Graves is a good all around Jungler with a good tanky mix build and is a good jungler all game pretty much. A good Graves early will try to fight you and kit you back and as you chase and throw your axe he will be doubling the damage you are doing.”
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Gamile Pantera says “He can be a punish if he kites you well, and have a massive clean capability.”
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sharosky says “perma ban him, if you win a matchup god bless the one that carried the game”
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Cryastro says “You can outrange him and his e dash isn't very long but he gets lots of armour and if he gets close to you he can one shot you. ”
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Narutoe says “Do not fight him early game as he will out trade you. With a little lead you can kill him solo.”
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EUWRATS says “Graves beats you level 1-3 but if he doesnt get ahead in those early levels by invading you, you should win, always ward in advance vs graves, most likely you will see him at your gromp. Make sure to take phase rush to be able to run after him.”
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nZk01 says “deals way too much damage and is way too tanky, bit scary but you can outplay him very early and even after 1st back if he goes crit if he tries to invade”
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Strike1 says “Ah my love graves, this matchup is slightly kindred favoured mostly because graves is not good right now but also because kindred outranges graves and is able to kite him and burst him down
If fight starts melee and graves is good and has farmed well he can mess up kindred (especially if graves went ignite instead of flash)
Needless to say though, kindred outscales graves and is a better champ overall so graves is only a minor threat”
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SoSheolH says “You're building armour and he's building lethality, he'll shred you pretty quick given the chance and lifesteal his way through fights, but your heavy CC can get him killed quickly in a teamfight. Don't 1v1 him, though. A good Graves will also spam invade you, so it may be a good idea to simply do your two buffs and start ganking (like Lee Sin).”
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Kindredgarten says “Kind of an even matchup but more Graves favored. He farms faster than you but you are slightly better early. Keep in mind that he can stack armor with his E passive in extended fights. Hard if he gets ahead but it's winnable. If he goes ignite, duels will be super hard to win and you should probably avoid it. Graves players like to invade so keep that in mind.”
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GuillaumeP84 says “Annoying because he can kite you, he stacks armor and farm faster than you. Focus yourself on ganks”
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Papa Urgot says “kiting + armour + vision denial + fast clear. though matchup, banning is not a bad idea.”
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Bingolyzed says “Very strong 1v1 jungler but has poor ganks. He scales very well so try to counter jungle and gank to get your team ahead.”
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TheMrDarkness says “if he stacked him E, its impossible to kill him, so 2v1 is the only way to kill him”
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Caled says “Graves is easily one of the HARDEST matchups for Kayn that he will lose 99% of the time. Regardless of what form you go, Graves' ability to fight pretty much any melee jungler is VERY strong as he gets bonus armor with his E (QuickDraw). Going Blue Kayn, you will never be able to one shot him as his itemization and kit counter you. Going Red Kayn, graves will kite you out of any of your Q’s (Reaping Slash) and will be able to dodge your W (Blade’s Reach) preventing you from ever locking him down. Graves thrives in early game skirmishes and can easily abuse Kayn before form through that of constant jungle pressure and invades. Against Graves, you will most likely have to give up any early scuttles and concede any pressure to him early/mid game as your weakest point is pre form. For most Kayn players, Graves is a MUST ban as it proves to be his worst matchup.”
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litecrunch says “This guy will dominate the early game and will most likely try to invade you. Don't fight early at all as he can kite you easily, ESPECIALLY with phase rush.”
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liserith says “Graves's strongest weapon is his kiting strength. However, as a fellow ranged champ, you can duel him just fine. When he hits you with W, make sure to Q out as soon as possible.”
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DeleDulux says “Pretty ranged champ but when you get him he's weak”
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kaynt ward says “Graves can clear as fast as you which means he can invade early easily and screw you over. His mobility in the jungle can mimic yours which makes it hard to run away from. If it's a good player he can out-kite you easily before you get form. Also, he is ranged which is bad when going Rhaast.”
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etlios says “Unkillable and will one shot you, but has a hard time forcing a fight on you if you don't face check him. Just avoid him, because he will just be you but better.”
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TheInkKingLoL says “Do not fight. Watch for invades, especially on red buff. Try to countergank.”
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Gumipapucs says “I do not like playing into this champion. He will be stronger in early game, so you want to mostly avoid 1v1's with him unless you are ahead.
Try to track him & predict where he may be able to gank, ping your teammates and prepare for counterganking. If you are behind or you just don't feel it would work out, you can invade his jungle on the other side / get drake/herald or gank another lane, as you know he won't be able to respond to any of this.”
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Unmeiu says “Graves bad, Graves too much damage and too much tanky early. Don't like Graves.”
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ShadowCross says “He can kill you any part of the game, cancel daisy autos, outfarms you, build serpents and invade you for free. It's just so unplayable. but if you get your lanes fed and position well he can't get to you in teamfights . ”
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Shinkutsune says “Avoid him in the early levels, he kills you if you dont dodge his Q. After 6, you should be able to 1V1 him if you use your Q correctly and if he isnt 20/0.
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DeleDulux says “his range is really annoying so don't run for him but if you find him very close try to 1 vs 1”
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KeyTheMonolith says “Graves can clear faster then you invade you at will and if you go Shadow Assassin he can blind you when you engage he also has the power to one shot you at will.”
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Mr.Dragon says “Can be fought early but care level 5 or when he has items can be a threat
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Balamir says “Graves has a good invade potential so u should try to avoid his invades.”
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Daynia says “High damage output in the early/mid game. But in the late, you can easy oneshot him”
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temple1997 says “Griggs can definitely be a problem if given the chance, he can do a good amount of damage and kill you before you can kill him if you aren't fed.”
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chevy the sloot says “Updating after recent nerfs. This champion is still annoying but is better. Try to start opposite buff and have someone ward your other buff because he likes to invade. Post 6 you can fight him if you have a lead just make sure you kite out his Q and W. Red smite is mandatory here.”
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c0st0m says “both junglers want to again power farm till certain spikes, graves struggles against ap matchups and mobile champs so in a duel you can definitly beat him”
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Shroomen Rider says “You can out duel a Graves unless he is fed. Same with Sheep lady. ”
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ShatteredMinds says “Personally my perma ban. He out kites you, can quickly get out of range of you, and does extremely high damage.”
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Tinjus says “Very annoying to deal with, but Kha'Zix can handle him quite easily. Get the jump on him first and use Void Assault to stop him from auto attacking you. Just be wary when jumping on him, he can easily dash away which leaves you vulnerable without Void Assault.”
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Udyr uber says “Tente acabar com ele no level 3
E quando ele estiver gankando, tente invadir ele, pois ele consegue ganhar as trocas no early contra você (Se ele souber caitar)
Tabi+Guerreiro+Malho congelado
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Medieval_Ducky25 says “Grave's damage output can completely obliterate Gragas before he gets the chance to do anything. Like Amumu, try to invade Graves early on and win the game as soon as possible.”
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Do1HaveTh3Sauce says “His clear is significantly faster then your clear, and he wins trades against you unless you are fed and he isn't.”
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kyrdousek says “he can dodge your e-q combo and ult and has armor in his e passive”
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Snadr says “Free lp. Graves' tank shread built is really bad atm. Rammus wins this matchup lvls 3-18”
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Tylen says “Graves can invade you and kill you easily at lv.1 rendering you useless for the entire game. A way to counter this invading is to start blue then vertical jungle, don't contest scuttle and counter jungle him. Stack AR. ”
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Traktorspor says “Can often out kite you, and the armor he gains from grit will make it hard for you to take him down.”
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kidgrindel2 says “Graves is a ranged champion so it'll be difficult for Viego to stick onto him already but he also has a dash which also makes it difficult, and if Viego whiffs his W then its all over for him.”
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Heavens Door says “Graves will invade you,
if u get a lead
hes useless”
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xDopii says “Same as Kindred. Can be annoying, but once in range he's easy to deal with.”
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TestTheLimit says “Graves can Kite kha'zix really well and late game is impossible to kill.”
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Bel37 says “You can actually fight him early. It really depends on how good the graves knows how to kite though. But in general he isn't too much of a threat.”
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WILK3HHH says “Conqueror, graves is the most disgusting matchup imo, his w is the strongest skill in his kit "smokescreen", his e can stack up armors, his r is dealing high dmg, just dodge or ban”
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Mod Walsh says “Ten cuidado con sus invades en early, su daño es engañoso y suele robarte campamentos, intenta hacer mirror jungle.”
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lolX9J says “Typical graves matchup, if he stacks armor it can be cringe to play against but overall he cant really kill you with this build.”
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massivecockkaynmain says “i dont know how the matchup is like cuz i perma ban him.But its hard cuz he kites red and blue will never oneshot him.”
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KingFershid says “Annoying cause he will invade every single time, Take Predator counter gank and you easily 1v1 him.”
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VenoSlayer123 says “Can perma-invade you pre-6 (you seeing a pattern yet?) and has the mobility and utility to avoid you and scale later on.”
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JunglerBuilds says “Ward your jungle and you should be alright. Has good jungle clear and high early damage. Needs a support to duo objectives. Try not to get counterjungled.”
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ChaseMorePlz says “He has high burst potential when he gets ahead, however when he dashes you need to hit your Bandage Toss on him to stop him from reigning terror. Overall, an easy matchup just ward for your team and be wary of his invades. ”
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CaptianMike says “While Graves is Auto Attack based, he does deal plenty of damage. I would avoid fights early, but you win mid and late game. There is not too much to worry about. Just farm and outscale.”
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ChaseMorePlz says “Tons of damage, however with a Red smite and proper counterstrike you can deal with his dominance. ”
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KosmicLegand says “Graves builds loads of Armor from his E, and he dashes a lot. His mobility prevents you from landing W.”
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Wolf Rengar says “Recommended: Electrocute Rune Page/Build.
Tips: Invade in early , avoid fights when he has E stacks up.
Graves is powerfarming jungler so try punishing him whenever you can on ganks or in his jungle.”
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sonminh says “Don't fight him early. 2v2 is possible if coordination is right and you have the first attack. Don't try to match full clear with him; he is way faster. Look for counter ganks, Graves can only gank if your laners are extremely vulnerable. Later in the game, picking him off is easy. Focus him first and play front to back if possible.”
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Kevalanium says “as long as you play smart and wait until 3 or 6 don't miss your q early and you should win if you get a lead he is 100% useless once you hit 6 ”
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xracer02 says “Graves is just broken and has too much armor against you. He will rush Plated Steelcaps and you won't kill him. Graves also gets too much armor with his E passive.”
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NathanPyke says “Mobility and Burst hard to kill time all of his abilities before you go in”
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Get Ricked says “Graves beats you early. At lvl 6 you can take him 1v1 but if he gets far ahead he can blow you up and you want to stay far away. ”
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G Spot God says “If he gets ahead it could be a long game for you. If not then I like the outscaling potential skarner has in this matchup. Must push the envelope early if he is behind and punish him. Only take duels if you hit your e and you have the spire or are very ahead. ”
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DarkAuraLOL says “This is one of the most skilled matchups, he has one of the healthiest clears in game, he has mobility, burst, and DPS. Not an easy matchup I have to say, but, if you sneak invade him, or cheese him early, you win. If not, you'll eventually outscale him with form and mythical item, and one shot him. Make sure you don't let him invade you, and don't fight him for long, cause he will kite you off.”
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KajiKumihoAkukei says “Graves can be a very rough match-up if he gets an early lead, but if he falls behind even a little bit you can just eat him up.”
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EvoNinja7 says “He out damages you in the early game, so play passive until you get your Kraken Slayer. Once you get Kraken Slayer you should be able to out duel him if you land a fully or semi charged W.”
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Wookie_Meme says “You have to play safe against him, he can easily 1v1 you. he can also start to perma invade if he gets a little fed, which could cause some huge problems.”
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Triebtt says “Graves can be a hard match up.
In level 6 you should kill him If you can land your Qs.
His smoke W makes him to strong couter jungler.”
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ziolo to noob says “Always go ignite against him, he never kills you, you're ultimate counter to him due to your Q and amount of damage early to late game.”
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MetaSolaray says “Graves natural tankiness from Grit will make him a tough matchup. While you win in direct fights if you can get on top of him smokescreen can make this hard. Counter with nimbus clock and avoid invading Graves if he's running Phase Rush. Taking waterwalking you can try to catch him turning corners with good vision and your raw melee stats will win early game. Late game build bramble and focus on peeling him as he'll be to bulky while dealing damage for you to handle.”
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Sq_09 says “Graves has similarly low pressure to you early, but he clears way faster than you. Try figthing him when you have your Liandry's, since he is not at a point where he could just delete you. Speaking of which, he can oneshot you as soon as he has Collector. In teamfights, you can try to catch him out and burst him, since he probably won't survive being ERd in a teamfight.”
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DarkAuraLOL says “A really annoying matchup early, he has great mobility especially with phase rush, he has good invading kit, with his dash through walls , he has a real fast clear , and doesn't lose health, just try to cheese his other side of the map, and only fight him if he's lower than you, also don't chase him once he dashes, cause of phase rush proc, try to fight him off, back when he dashes, unless u can flash and finish him off . Also avoid him invading your jungle , ward and ping your teammates.”
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RedNBlue says “You have longer range just make sure to dodge out of his near sighted smoke bomb so that you can still shoot him. Otherwise he will be a piece of cake and if he picks graves into you he will be making a GRAVES MISTAKE!”
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C7 Lord Pingu says “Graves is kind of weird where it's like if you get slapped harder than you slap you lose. Landing stun on this guy is basically an essential, especially if he has phase rush. Don't try to ult him to gap close just because you missed your W unless your giga ahead. It's probably not gonna do you any good. You will probably appreciate either Galeforce or Kraken Slayer vs him.”
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lolBlender says “If hes ahead hes dangerous but if he cant kill you make sure you hit your e before trying to engage.”
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AlmostN0Numbers says “dont let him run you down early, ideally dont fight him 1v1 early period. ”
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Sheathblade says “Graves can easily burst you down if your not careful. Fight him with caution; he will most likely go nosing around in your jungle. Also has stupid amounts of armor for no reason.”
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ANTHONYEVELYNN says “"even" is just the average of 50% of graves being a tiny threat while the other 50% being an extreme threat. Most people can't play him well enough”
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Shukori says “As of right now [Patch 11.3], Graves is really bad in my opinion and is therefore not even a threat to Karthus. Nevertheless i will write down Notes in case he becomes strong again.||||||Graves becomes a threat starting at lvl 1 because his Shotgun passive allows him to exert a lot of damage with autoattacks only. He also has a really fast Clear so make sure to ward in case he steals your Camps and if he does act accordingly. His Smokescreen [W] can be quite a nuisance but as long as you kind of "guess" where the enemy is and Q while walking out you should be fine. This is kinda the part where Intuition and gamesense comes into play.”
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Larzz says “A champion that will, if played correctly, burst you out of existence”
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Hidon1 says “He likes to full clear as well. He will come out if the kills are free and he might also make a pressure gank to get some objectives, but the only thing he has on you is early invades - be careful to not get gunned down in your jungle. But with Phase Rush your early fighting in the jungle should not be a problem. ”
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adony101 says “You can match his early aggression but he outscales you, especially in teamfights. You can 1v1 him mid-late game if he doesn't build mr. Go zhonya's 3rd item. Not a bad match-up overall imo.”
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J03B0B says “A good graves look to stall your lvl 6 spike by invading and looking to take 2v2/3v3 skirmishes. He'll be more useful than you pre 6 so make sure you're not baiting your teammates into what graves wants.
When you gank, it better work, or your opposite side jg is gone and your level 6 is delayed by a lot. Once you have ult take over the game! ”
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GabrielGames says “Graves' in meta. You can block his E but late/mid game he is a monster”
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J03B0B says “HIs E allows him to dodge your E, after that he procs phase rush and dominates you. It's not unwinnable but he will out scale you and he isn't easily exploitable early game. ”
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TheMrDarkness says “PERMA BAN HIM IF YOU ARE PLAYING RENGAR. You will regret not banning him. he's just as squishy as any marksman, but if he stacks if E, he is just unkillable also if he has phase rush is hard to catch him”
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Linkay says “Same story with Nidalee. A lot of movement and out damages you in trades. Wait for late game and peel him off.”
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SingleSausage says “He has better clear than you and can steal alot of ur camps to get ahead, early u can beat him if you stay on him and e his burst but if he kits u he can win, you have better gankes after 6 he has better become 6 overall its a skill match up”
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YIVENDER says “His Smoke Screen is annoying and he has alot of Dmg but since he has no CC, you can dodge alot of his spells or negate some damage with your W.”
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Schadenfreude says “If you main this champion, go ahead and close out this tab, because I hate you. I have seen people taking galeforce on him, so he might be harder to catch, but if you manage to get your hands on this piece of shit, I want you to make him suffer. Invade any chance you get. Put him behind and make him regret queuing up. ”
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chevy the sloot says “You are arguably the only counter match up Graves has. That said this is usually a tempo match up so you want to bully him and deny him a snowball before yours. ”
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styllEE says “Nocturne is really good into a lot of junglers atm, he beats most of them 1v1, and can nuke a lot of the populars like Graves, Taliyah etc.”
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Watsonthe8th says “Im told this is a good match up for jax. I have no complains. he has a hard time fighting you as your e negates his burst. Ive lost to alot of jaxs while on graves so...... maybe its good.”
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Aurelius2142 says “DON'T GET KITED. If you can follow his E with your Q, you should win.”
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Karthus man says “Graves can be a problem to you, but only in the early game and if he gets fed. If that happens, you should get a stopwatch to survive his initial burst and also try to power farm to catch up. Be weary about his invades because that is what graves likes to do.”
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TheElibeater says “Hard counter to Kayn. Especially in the earlier stages of the game, Kayn doesn't stand a chance against Graves. His additional armor from the passive of his E makes him a great duelist against AD champions.”
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SDA Foobar says “he scales well in late game and does almost same dmg as lee sin in early, very strong you can try to counter gank or tell your solo laners to help you invade ”
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Karwit says “Jest to chyba najcięższy przeciwnik dla kayna , Jeśli gramy asasynem , nie jesteśmy w stanie zadać mu obrażeń jeśli trafi nas krótkowzrocznością , jeśli gramy darkinem jest na tyle mobilny aby nas obijać zanim my zadamy mu obrażenia. Dodatkowo ma ogromny pancerz z pasywki E”
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ToMeTTV says “Strong champ in general but and can get tanky so AD does very bad into this and AP will struggle also because he can just dash onto you making it very hard to cite.”
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Kosserai says “Graves can feed himself pretty easily, once he haves eclipse and The Collector, you can say goodbye to the victory, try ganking the winning lane if this happens, if there is no winning lane, gank the one with the most amount of kills”
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SubwayCheese says “He blinds you so you can't hit any of your skill shots and he runs away when he shoots you. Usually my first ban pick.”
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Chaddy Chapstick says “Graves is Ivern's biggest counter seeing how he can dodge, put out high damage, and fight better than you in every stage of the game. His autos will knock back monsters/minions and daisy is considered a monster so she will never be able to get her 3 hit passive on him.”
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dinodrat says “His smokescreen is really annoying and his passive that stacks armor can fuck you really hard but still not a biggest counter.”
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Ivern OTP says “I used to ban graves perma since his autos push back Daisy and it used to tilt the living shit out of me. Graves can easily counter jg and contest your camps. Any champion that has an easy time getting into your jg and possibly stealing a prepping camp is a high threat to you.”
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AutrucheSacrew says “He can just W the bush, he stacks armor with E and kite well.”
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ractick says “His passive, his E and W can be very abnoxious to Kayn. He will be able to kite Kayn with his E and Phase Rush.
His W (Nearsighted) can prevent you from using R at the right time and cause you to die.
Tricky match-up, not the hardest can be won with both forms, but I find Blue a better fit.”
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Maile says “Just ban it. You can't kill him and he does a billion damage. Idk just dodge if you see this thing. ”
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nicksms says “I permaban graves. There are worse counters to Shaco but I just can't play against graves for some reason. He outfarms me, outganks me, out-objectives me, and most Graves players I play against can actually use the champion (unlike heca or nunu, for some reason).”
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acrymoon says “You can't win against graves, he outscales you early and late game”
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McSushi says “You'll have to rely on him misplaying.
there's usually no way to win against a good graves, so you'll have to abuse every mistake that he or his team makes.
in gold elo and below, he will usually do a five camp clear from red to gromp. you can do a double buff gromp clear and invade him, low elo players just CANT kite camps, even on graves.”
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Connweasel says “Graves is a top contender for my ban every game, this champion's passive gives him addition armor which makes him tanky without items. His entire kit is all about kiting, and it can be extremely hard to actually get on this champion and deal with him.”
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ENIGMAckey says “Graves is not only the most meta jungle in higher elo for the last few years, he is also the most annoying by a wide margin. Even if you root him with your Q and slow him with your shield, he can still stay on top of you.
If you fall behind to Graves, consider your jungle gone.”
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FrankynFood says “He blinds you, just press w. Most likely will invade your jungle so look for opportunities to outsmart him.”
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RankOneZesin says “Graves is the champion I ban 100% of the time. Graves makes your life miserable. He will kite you around and outsustain you after he finishes his Death's Dance combined with red smite. If graves goes Phase rush the only way to fight him is getting the Phase rush on cooldown or have your laners CC him so he can not escape. If you meet him 1v1 the only way you kill him is if you get the first combo in from an unwarded area. I don't think this matchup is playable though as he 9/10x outperforms you later on in the game while being unkillabe.”
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CalicoCactus says “Can be annoying early with his smokje screen and his kite ability, at the end of the day he is an ADC who right now is building lethality, you should have no problem with him.”
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Trexori says “He will kite you to death, in team fights you will still oustcale him.”
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b4kk0n the Gold Jungler says “Graves is only a major threat because of his early game power. Always watch out for level 2 invades with his E and save your taunt for when he flashes or Quickdraws away.”
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Mirarkane says “Too strong. good farm, tanking, moves fast, outscales.”
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HopeyGaby says “Go Phase rush and try to get to him but its hard to duel with him”
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Zanzauric says “Skill level he can destroy you but only if he know how to chase you”
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Ardent Deceiver says “Easy to shutdown early, but if he gets ahead he wins 1v1. Difficult to stop and play catch up once he gets rolling.”
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Einsteinium99 says “Graves can be difficult to counter play because of his speed and dash. Prioritize killing other enemys first.”
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jhoijhoi says “ Graves is a heavy burst damage carry. His combo of Quickdraw, Buckshot and Collateral Damage coupled with any sort of support CC/damage increase often results in a kill. He is also innately tanky due to True Grit, so it is hard to lower his health. Lastly, Smoke Screen is often used to confuse those trying to gank, or to hinder anyone who tries to flee - the lack of vision completely screws up any initiation or follow up.”
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KevinThyAsian says “Skill matchup imo. Kindred is slightly better in teamfights but graves got the duelling so yeh. ”
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Kewit says “Don't try to contest the scuttles if your teammates aren't with you. ”
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killcolin says “Same thing as lee sin. If he invades you pre-6 you're fucked. Once you hit 6 you can duel him with no isolation but he does scale very hard and can be a pain to deal with due to his w cancelling your q.”
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VoLDii says “Even skill matchup, you can 1 shot him after 2 items if you land full combo”
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Tin Wooki says “Graves is scary into the late game or if he gets ahead, but you can kill him early if you get a chance to safely invade him.”
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Andygumy says “His Smoke Screen is annoying and he has alot of Dmg but you since he has no CC, you can dodge alot of his spells or negate some damage with your W.”
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Olleander says “he just invades you all game and out scales you. by far ivern's worst match up”
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NiceTryVi says “Graves, like kindred, will kite you forever, but is far less annoying to deal with than she is. His high burst is something to be wary of as well.”
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Fresh Diamond says “Graves W and E makes it hard to fight him without blue smite. He is much less mobile than Kindred, but his high auto damage and his armor stacking passive makes him unusually hard to kill.”
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mrpickleshirt says “All early junglers present a threat to you, and graves is no exception.”
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senrick says “His clearing is fast and safe and he is hard to kill 1 v 1.
Try to steal some camps to deny farm and gank as you are better ganker.”
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Neppty says “He is extremely strong against him and can't be fought back and outscales you.”
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BoyWonder00 says “Amazing early game and will look to invade you often. He can also use his W to keep you from fearing him with your Q. He falls off late game, though, so if you can not die you outscale him.”
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Orfeass says “Againts Graves you dont play leauge of legends you play survival due to his dominant early game and his constant invades make him really hard to play againts with thet fact that you need Rhast to beat him but he gives Shaddow Assassin orbs just makes it harder. ”
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Minase says “Graves can easily shut you down and make your game unplayable and ontop of that he can very easily buy MR making him unkillable. However, if you get ahead early he can't play the game at all, so just try to avoid him and path safely so you can find a kill without dying. If you die even once the game is most likely over.”
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VirulentCabbage says “A good Graves will invade you level 2 and send you to the grey screen simulator for the rest of the game by taking all your clear and then snowballing till he can one shot your entire team. 99% of games you should ban this champion in ranked. Norms are mostly okay.”
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ACE4291 says “Can be annoying and tanky. He perma invades but you have a better teamfight 5v5 kit
Silence and Q is an easy escape if he chases you pre 6”
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Iee SlN says “Skill Matchup. DONT MISS Q. His passive Armor makes him tanky, so fight with team/red buff”
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At0mikx458 says “Graves has a lack of MR so you can deal a lot of damage. But be carefull in 1v1 if you miss cocon because he can deal a lot of damage”
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vkdead says “Streamer I watch reccommends banning this fool. Havent played against him, since you know, I'm lvl 27.”
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LameMC says “his blind will take you out of the fight since your abilities rely on line of sight for consistent damage”
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DanteS22 says “This bad beard guy can kite you well, if you are close range to him fight, if you are not avoid the fight.”
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God_Maw Lan says “High amount of dps , you have a big chance to easily escape but he can affect you in ganks quite badly”
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GovernorLoL says “He can invade u in the first clear, if he wear ignite u will be forced to leave”
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BoyWonder00 says “Like Elise, he shuts down Kayn and prevents him from getting his form. His E also stacks armour, and both Rhaast and SA do mostly physical damage.”
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High on Kayn says “HE will f**ck you up if you don't no how to handle invades
100% perma ban in ranked”
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bravestbrave says “BAN GRAVES. This champion can abuse Kayn early and have a really good mid to late-game too.”
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FalleN3 says “Graves has incredible early damage and if he gets fed you will have a big problem dealing with him. You will need to avoid his Smoke Screen as the loss of vision will leave you vulnerable. Using your meditate can help you to survive all-ins.”
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PH45 says “Has a dash so be careful as he can burst you really quickly early on as you are quite weak without your transformation. Remember to dodge his Q as it deals a ton of damage and in narrow spaces its much faster to explode.”
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FalleN3 says “Graves has incredible early damage and if you run into him in the early game or he invades your jungle, you will likely die. ”
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Holessando says “Graves is extremely powerful now in my opinion, he's a tank bruiser/assassin, who is really unbalanced. He can do a lot in late game, with full items, he gets a lot of hp, armor, and also damage, which makes him greatly strong. He can delete the whole team, once, I was playing againt him, and he did literally 1v4, without any help. This champion doesn't make sense, and should be nerfed. Be careful about early trades, since he's strong in all phases of game. Try to not get him fed, or he'll do the thing I wrote before. He may come to steal some of your camps, so be prepared. ”
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KingStix says “Graves can cause trouble with his mobility to dodge abilities and stun and 1v1 you.”
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metalhydra273 says “I'm going to say it again once more so I don't have to repeat myself too much, but whoever gets ahead usually wins. Graves is very susceptible to ult and you can run him down, but if he's too tanky to deal with it could be hard to kill him. Look to pull ahead before the late game and keep up pressure.”
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NixLychee says “The biggest threat for Kayn, this is almost always an insta-ban because, as Kayn, you get kited REALLY hard, so you don't want to go up against a lot of ranged Junglers. His dash and kiting ability makes it impossible to hit your abilities, and his smokescreen prevents you from using your targeted ultimate, so basically just always ban Graves.”
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DemacianStandard says “It's Graves. You generally won't do damage to him, but you can take advantage of his lack of mobility in extended fights. He cannot be duelled at any point in the game and is prone to stealing red buffs.”
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Xe0N says “He is a 1v1 beast and he will kill you multiple times in the early game. If he always counterjungles you and/or 1v1s you in your jungle all the time play aggressive and try to gank a lot.”
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AKScorched says “Graves is a pain in the behind for Fiddle. His mobility is pretty annoying and that nearsight succs (no pun intended). Basically don't fight him and if he invades you ask for your teammates help to kill him. If they don't just invade him and steal his raptors or wolves. Basically whatever he's stealing from you. You win mid-lategame against him, even 1v1.”
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brSL7 says “Muitos Graves gostam de ficar invadindo a sua jungle, então peça ajuda para seu time e warde sempre.
No geral Mid-Late Game a troca é do Dr Mundo ”
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Maintained says “Stronger dueling at all stages of the game unless he falls behind. You have better ganks. You have better teamfights.”
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The Valhir says “He will just kite you in the early game and take all your camps.”
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gurubashi35 says “Ranged champions are your biggest weakness. Avoid fighting him unless you can land a fear or you have blue smite available. ”
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afraidoftruth says “Best u can do, is countergank it, do objectives after his death, build as much %penets as u can do like bc or regards, 1v5 champ”
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NixLychee says “You get kited quite easily, especially if you don't yet have ult or it's on cooldown. Try to avoid fighting Graves unless you are significantly ahead.”
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KaRMaX says “One of ther worst match up. He will invade your jgl early, has better mobility and dmg. You need to understand if you have mid priority to be able to farm your jungle and have help from your laners to deal with him. You can try some counter jungle to not fall behind and play around the map, find an opportunity to gank.”
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Spection says “ UNCOMMON. Graves is probably your hardest ADC counter, bringing a terrifying amount of damage at any range whether he is extremely behind or way in the lead, you don't ever want to pick Pantheon onto this horrifying champion. He will burst you down in seconds and wipe his face with your blood and tears. ”
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chasemyman1 says “You would think this is an easy matchup due to Graves kit being built against AD but its a really tough matchup for Elise. He can dodge your cocoon easily and use his smoke grenade to blind you. Mix this with Phase Rush and he dances around you. Trying and get some early ganks of to get objectives before he can impact the game.”
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dinole says “I prefer this ban in soloq, he will invade you and he will have scuttle control early, really annoying”
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popthepop says “Strong in solo queue, very hard to contest scuttles because zac is too weak early. Try to split the map and go for the other scuttle. If graves has not snowballed his early lead too far ahead, you are doing well.
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reganakers says “Graves can kite you pre 6 so be careful of getting outplayed. He also gains alot of armour so he is tankier than you think.”
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berronii says “He's one of the hardest champions to get to in the jungle, you'll get a bunch of damage just by getting close to him. E as fast as he turns back to you, and start going towards him. He'll deal some damage to you even through your E, but you have your Q so you shouldn't worry. Once you get close to him, it'll be hard but you can win if you've finished Warrior. Don't start fights with him before finishing it. ”
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JustNeko says “Try to invade, use runes 3 to chase him down, get the Randuin if he got crits”
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Depresso says “Goes Phase Rush thus making your slow worthless against him.
One auto attacks sends daisy directly to Brazil so don't expect to ever get a knock-up on this guy, or by that matter, around him at all.
Can invade and kill you if he knows your pathing aswell”
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PsiGuard says “This matchup slightly favors Evelynn as the game goes on, but Graves has a strong early game (especially level 2) and may invade you, so plan your route and place vision to avoid fighting him. Once you have Runic Echoes and level 6, you can start threatening him directly. Watch out for defensive items like Hexdrinker, Mercury's Treads or Phantom Dancer that might make him tankier than he seems. If you keep scaling and getting more AP, eventually you'll outstrip his defenses if you can ever charm him.”
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PsiGuard says “Graves' mobility, armor and sustained damage allow him to 1v1 you at most points of the game. You can usually avoid dying to him 1v1, but it'll be difficult to win early fights if he's involved. Feel free to cede minor objectives like the Scuttle to him, as the only way he kills you is if you commit to fighting him. Make sure you take Nimbus Cloak in this matchup so he doesn't run you down.”
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Freyhacks says “Because Xin is nerfed, graves became harder to deal with because he got buffed and he can kite a Xin if you dont have any items. You will be fine if you are ahead though.”
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xFirefoxYBA says “He can invade your jg in lvl 2 like its his own, you gotta care and ward in order to stay a step ahead.”
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Freyhacks says “Graves gets armor stacked on his e so in long fights he out sustains you. In season 9 however Kayn is doing much better against graves.”
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BrawlerDave says “Can out farm your jungle, dont be scared by that, objectives is the key here. and proper jungle management”
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RageAx says “Pretty dangerous pre form but not much of a threat once you are a little tanky. Just powerfarm for Rhaast.”
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Aimisenpaii says “As long as you can dodge his smokescreen, you will win trade, this is a skill matchup, if you get ahead, punish him as hard as you can”
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KillyOne says “Similar to Kindred in a sense that he is ranged with a lot of damage, but also is pretty tanky thanks to his E passive. He will likely kite you a lot, so don't try too hard to fight with him. Focus on objectives rather than 1v1ing Graves.”
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KillyOne says “A good graves player will give you nightmares in the jungle. He is ranged which makes him hard to kite and he also packs quite a bit of damage and gap closers with a dash and slow.”
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NoaaaaXD says “With Phase Rush he will kite you, and with his passive he will gain a lot of armor, so you will have trouble oneshotting him.”
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Ambient12 says “UNCOMMON. Graves is probably your hardest ADC counter, bringing a terrifying amount of damage at any range whether he is extremely behind or way in the lead, you don't ever want to pick Pantheon onto this horrifying champion. He will burst you down in seconds and wipe his face with your blood and tears.”
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League Of Cursed says “You are looking to power farm much faster than he can. Always be on the move between camps, and try to grab scuttles way before he can get there. May be difficult at times, but you can gank harder at 6.
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League Of Cursed says “Graves has the ability to clear jungle monsters without spending health and you will lose the battle against Graves in the jungle ...
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reganakers says “Another champ that can kite Rek'Sai quite easily. His passive also makes him a tank vs AD champs like Rek'sai so taking a 1v1 against him may not be as easy as it would seem.”
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Dopamine_influx says “A good graves will never die to rengar, as his passive gives him a lot of armor, his red smite and tabi is basically an exhaust. He doesn't clear faster than you, so you can always try to meet him at scuttle, provided you have prio. You win with triple Q if you play it right. (don't chase after he procs phase rush, stay near bushes, predict where he will E when you E...)”
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Stiwy says “Strong early game and ranged autoattacks. His E armor can be a pain to deal with in the early game.
Try to play safe and you will outscale him.
If you are not too behind you can kill him at level 6.
Ninja tabis are a good early buy.”
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Xeldom says “Difficult match-up.
Graves will never lose to you 1v1 due to his Quickdraw. His core build is black cleaver and he will buy ninja tabi's against you. Maintain constant pressure of the map and gank/ward your jungle entrance for invades. Do not let Graves farm for free.”
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Poohlio says “He out damage you early and can stack armor with his E, kinda busted not gonna lie especially when he has Phase Rush and out manuvers you too D:”
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Jogress says “Strong early - may invade and may ruin you game. Play accurately and ping to allies. If your jungle is warded - counterjungle his part when he appears”
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ZLOCO says “Good Graves can Easy counter jungle you with Ignite/Phase Rush so u must play safe vs him,he have extremly good jungle clearance and amazing sustian.”
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NoLyfe says “Grave's abusers are kinda gay, if he doesn't get too far ahead you should be okay. Late game just r him if hes ahead , if he's not relevant, just r backline.”
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DarkArbalist613 says “Graves overall is less mobile than Kindred, but he has high dmg, and his smokescreen can easily lose you fights, so just make sure to kite him out and play around his abiltiy cooldowns, because if you dodge his W and Q you outdmg him significantly.”
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Comrade Eshgrim says “Purely skill matchup. Invade him with red buff cheese and follow up on his ganks when you can.”
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DoughnutFeel says “He can kite you and outdamage you in the early levels.”
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Leakk says “Wins every 1v1 early can perma invade you and clears faster than you”
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BillyJoelBob says “you can counter his phase rush with predator or your own phase rush and keep sticking on him.”
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nextonetwo says “Graves is pretty weak early, he's a good duelist though, so still be careful. call for help if you see him in your jungle.”
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nextonetwo says “Graves is pretty weak early, he's a good duelist though, so still be careful. call for help if you see him in your jungle.”
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Date Me Lee Sin says “Graves gonna be very annoying, to beat him u need to focus to jump in first then use your ultimate to cancel his auto attacks,he will probably will go ninja tabi that will make ur burst smaller, after evolve Q u will see big difference. Versus Graves i recommend to pick Conqueror and Evolve R and Q in this matchup you can evolve W too so you can minimize his moovement speed.”
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nickname3110 says “Same as Kindred. Can be annoying, but once in range he's easy to deal with.”
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TimRhabey says “He's a pain for you to kill his gank is pretty bad like yours but the major problem is that he can tank you and kite you easily + his W prevents you from AA anything that is out of his W range.”
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MegaAlphaDog says “Similar to kindred in the ability to kite you out, but a bit harder to deal with as his E passive allows him to be a bit tankier in fights. play for objectives instead of fighting early.”
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FIN SHACO says “mostly too tanky for you to oneshot him and wins you in 1v1 mostly if you are not ahead
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GhostReaper87 says “This guy can invade you from lvl 1 and will keep invading you if he knows what he is doing.Try to lay a ward down on his red and see where he started so you can adjust where to start so you don't fight for same crab or worst case scenario he invades and kills you.”
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Hide on Nidalee says “Skill Match too, this is a little bit harder than Lee Sin and Elise, but is winnable too, hmm, Graves is so tanky at lvl 3 so take care on scuttles”
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One Stab says “His E passive, items and dmg make him a huge thread, besides him being quite strong rn. Go conqueror, try to squirmish early. Banning him is probably the best option tho. ”
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Kamisore says “Just permaban him, his Grit makes it so he gets free armor so you can't 1v1 him, and if he W's a bush you can't leap and you also get slowed.”
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DarkPit59 says “Graves dispose d'outils dévastateurs pour toujours gagner ses duels. Il dispose de très lourds dégâts et peut vous anéantir dès l'earlygame. Si son KDA s'envole, il sera difficile de l'affronter sans mourir. Enfin, prenez garde à son ultime lorsque vous fuyez avec peu de PV.”
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NotMyRENGAR says “he can dodge your q with his e and in early game if ur team doesn't help you can easyly outclassed”
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FaT3LSAVIOR says “Graves is broken have fun. Should perma ban this champ”
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RZEMgub9r says “Gank runes
Has better clear, prevent him getting fed with vision”
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SapphireLoL says “Graves can kite you, much like any other ranged jungler, however his smoke bomb can prevent you from ulting him when you need it most.”
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Otos says “1v1 him depends wheter you hit your E or not. But even you land it, if he's playing with phase rush he can get away even if u land it.”
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Flux31 says “Graves is the same as Kindred but with less kiting potential.”
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WickedPoppet says “You are looking to power farm much faster than he can. Always be on the move between camps, and try to grab scuttles way before he can get there. May be difficult at times, but you can gank harder at 6.”
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D3str00 says “To be honest, fights with Graves all always equal. Trouble starts when he hit good smoke - you won't be able to hit Q properly, moreover You will have hard times hitting him with auto attacks, which is key to win early trades. In addition, because of his primary rune (phase rush) he is hard to track with your Q”
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agarandom says “As long as the Graves does not throw or run it down, you will most likely lose this matchup. Graves is a hardcounter to Rengar. If he uses his W on you, you cannot jump (since you can't see). He kites you too well and he has way too much armor to deal with. Ban this if you don't ”
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BLIHOK says “I think, Naut Jung scary only that persosn who can take forest faster like wind and conterjungle”
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LightBright9213 says “Can easily duel you, kite you, and invade you. Rek'sai with a shotgun. Late game focus him in team fights with your ult.”
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Kexx97 says “You can fight him, but he can be stronger most of the times rather avoid him.”
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Mihaels1 says “He is very good in early game and he can easily kill you if your abilities are on cooldown”
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SavageFy says “Graves' damage, mobility and clear time are an extreme threat for Amumu. You want to avoid him early game. Graves often looks to invade Amumu's jungle early.”
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Sorrowful Prince says “Basically the same as Nidalee. Be careful of 1:25 and don't take early game skirmishes when he can countergank. Try to get stuff going when he is going for a full clear. You will inevitably fall behind in the midgame so everything before is an investment for you.”
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derpyboi says “If you can Q out of the way of his Q and R then you should be fine for the rest of the fight.”
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Waffel136 says “Simply bann graves to avoid getting dominated, as it is very difficult to jungle against graves if you play rek'sai due to the kiting.”
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TheDarkLight says “EXTREMELY BROKEN RN, he can blind you then kill you almost instantly. ”
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Balintvezer says “Graves is not a really hard matchup, but he is a really strong champ. Tanky and a lot of dmg. Poke with E, but you can go closer. ”
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GinWinsky says “If skilled, a Graves player will outfarm you and kite you to death. If he gets CCd by your box, then you win the 1v1. Can kill him easily after Duskblade.”
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Ehxakt says “Pretty meta right now. Its just a threat when the enemy knows what he is doing. When played correctly you just get outjungled. Just perma gank then i guess.”
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TrevorJayce says “Graves's kit is pretty insane into Rengar. The free armor he gets from E as well as the blind that he can just drop in a bush and make you lose both eyes instead of just one, he's going to outdamage you if he's a good graves. Regardless though, play around his blind and dance around his Q and you should win skirmishes.”
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Sismanski says “Graves is another odd to fight against Champion. Not as bad as some others, but his Smoke can be annoying, if you want to dash around. You can't dash to what you cannot see.
Technically there still are many threats to Wu, even with this build. Especially CC and constant ranged poke can be hard to fight against. Basically if your team is getting poked to death, there is not much you can do.”
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Fabosch is Love says “He kites you easily and his smoke is a real pain for your autoattack.”
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AsarWeth says “This is a good matchup for you, invade him, kill him, abuse him. Counter his Ulti with your spellshield.”
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Morzanoth says “So Graves is an odd match-up. He has a similar playstyle to fizz in terms of what he looks to do in a game but he doesn't have as hard a fall off in the late game. I rank him pretty low on the match up list for fizz because he doesn't really have much kill pressure on you since you can more often than not E to avoid a lot of damage and run away. Fizz's level 6 is actually better than graves (20% increased damage to a target) since Fizz can then basically one-shot anyone he chooses. Just be careful of getting counter jungled since graves has a better clear early on.”
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Nico449c says “Graves is one of the weaker junglers the only things you should be away of you will lose most fights if you miss e or if you let him hit you with both damage parts of q. Otherwise you will easily win fights early hes weak so if you invade him or countergank him your almost guaranteed a free kill or flash. He got extremely weak ganks early and later.”
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Ryttar says “Stronger than you in early but as soon as you get 6 you might be able to fight him and he can't cancel your casts so it's pretty even.”
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AsarWeth says “Graves is a problem if he lands the smokescreen in you.”
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Nanfaza says “His clear is clean and healthy along with his burst also fatal if fed. His Smokescreen(W) really annoying since you can't Alpha Strike(Q) out of it.”
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KajiKumihoAkukei says “Graves can be a very rough match-up if he gets an early lead, but if he falls behind even a little bit you can just eat him up.”
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Sanhulks says “CHAMPION MATCH UP.
✅ WARWICK 51 % WR✅
VS
GRAVES 48 % WR”
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Evilfury10 says “Just Need To Dodge His W and Should Be A Free Kill”
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Split King says “Graves can kite you and is fairly tanky even if you get to him. He will win most fights so don't force fights unless you are ahead. ”
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BlindKidNoThumbs says “He can kite you quite well especially with phase rush you still beat him in duels and early game skirmishes.”
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NegativeSe7en says “Graves é absurdamente forte, recomendo jogar muito safe e não tentar invadir esse viado”
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The Top Bear says “Skill matchup in his favor. Use your W to dodge his q and you can probably win the fight, however only if you hit the q. Try to fight with as much room as possible and don't confine yourself.”
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urrb says “Graves is basically freelo against Kha'Zix. Unless he builds lethality and gets a lead before you fight him, he's generally pretty easy to beat. If you ever catch him isolated he's just dead. ”
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SpecterZX says “This is actually unlosable.
All he can do is run away.”
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SirEdgeLordYi says “he is kinda weak right now but can still outduel you if you are not careful enough. ( if you have a red buff you have the advantage over him)”
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orangepenguinhead says “Graves does quite the damage for how tanky he is. Don't let him scale into the late game, win by mid game. ”
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OGPOTATOJEFFSHACO says “early game could be a little challenging. The longer the game goes the better”
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PokeBen6551 says “Really annoying because of the damge he deals, but you should be able to tank him in late nontheless.”
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cutmeh says “His quick and healthy clear opens the potential for you to be invaded. Smoke screen is also annoying to deal with as it prevents you from jumping ”
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Grap3fest says “A good graves can get a lot of damage off and dodge your axes. Careful on a fed one of these.”
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0kruemlmonster says “Ghost recommended, he'll try to kite you. He simply deals more damage than you. Hyper late game you got him, but before that it's difficult.”
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Kalechiwp says “Does to much damage and can invade you with ease. Stay away from him at all times and try to outplay him with your clone.”
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DonaldBinBaggin says “Hard to kill due to his E and items that he can build. Graves can outfarm you, walk into your jungle and beat you 1v1 early-mid game. Try your best to outgank this champion.”
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Simphoria says “Scales decent, has quick and healthy clears. He can't really kill us but he can counter very well. Like Eve, be careful of his snowballing potential. ”
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HackedAccountlol says “His E and W makes it harder for you. You can't really 1v1 him, gank lanes don't do 1v1's against him”
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Mkcls says “Graves is 50/50 match-up. Don't try to fight him early, you should be able to outgank him. With recent buffs, he's a bit harder to kill so keep in mind that you lose long time fights with him.”
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Fyurex says “The current meta is all about the early game. Graves is very strong early game. If you let him snowball he will become way too strong mid game and will one-shot your carries. try denying him jungle farm with counterjungling.”
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LFS_aXent says “He is just as mobile as you, due to his auto reducing CS on his his dash and all. He may out damage you. My best advice would be to follow up if he is ganking. Always counter-gank, don't let him get fed. You win early.”
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KillrBNS says “He is a joke, counter jungle him and he will be useless”
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shaundasschaf says “He deals more damage than you at any point of the game. Strong clear, strong duelist. Better don't fight him if you're not fed.”
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McDank says “He has very high damage output and clears camps very fast so he may try to counterjungle you whenever he sees you ganking, so try to make sure you have good vision in your jungle. ”
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Mr. Nyahr says “Early game he's a mild threat due to his burst and blind, but later on he won't deal enough damage to stop you from rolling someone.”
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Mr. Nyahr says “Graves is fairly weak right now. You do what he does but better. Don't stand in his smoke and watch out for his Q. If his E is down, you have a window to punish him before it is up again.”
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Laverenz says “Quite easy for Jax to kill. Graves relies on his basic attack, which you can just block ;). Also, he has no real escape move, except for his little dash. You can just run after him if he dashes, no problem. ”
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Laverenz says “Graves' smoke screen can be a big counter for Skarner, as skarner needs to be able to see the enemies, to be able to attack them.”
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CryAwake says “try to aim your stun and use your Steadfast presence to secure his kill by blocking his escape however be wary of his damage.”
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sNenSss says “He's like an ADC just with a bit more sustain. Try to one shot him and avoid his W.”
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Chromuro says “This matchup is really deceptive: I put it at 1, but it could be really anything. In early game he's manageable, one of his main problems is that he can be easily kited so your Q can stop any of his engages. If he get even slighly fed, he becomes a nightmare and he'll stick to you and kill you with ease. Stealing some of his camps could help you managing this threat”
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HKRV says “His smoke can deny your E, so you can't stun him. Other than that, not much of a threat.”
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FinsFridays says “Graves can easily dodge your abilities and does enough damage to auto you to death. Avoid dueling him.”
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4by3 says “Also a traditional Shaco counter, it's one of those champions that whether you both of you build full damage, even if you engage on him he will still kill you. Avoid him early he will invade a lot.”
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Scantie says “Basically a jungling ADC. Free food, just play aggressive”
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Jadiac5 says “Be awayre of his smoke greanade, if you cant see your Q wont recast adn you will be vulnerable.”
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FromTopToGank says “ranged champions against shen is a kind of pain try to avoid him as possible especially early game”
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KhaZix Mains says “[5/10] Very annoying to deal with, but you can change your playstyle to get the upper hand. Get the jump on him first and use Void Assault to stop him from auto attacking you. Just be wary when jumping on him, he can easily dash away which leaves you vulnerable if you do not have Void Assault. Also be mindful of how tanky he can become while still dealing damage with the tankiness from True Grit (passive), Challenging Smite, Ninja Tabis, Death's Dance, or more which negate your burst. Q evolve can make a big difference in dueling him. It’s recommended to try out Phase Rush in this matchup as you’ll have a lot more sticking power and slow resistance to not get kited by him earlygame. Also be mindful of his early invades and ganks.”
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MrPuggles says “ Graves is easy enough to beat in a 1v1 early. His reload time during the early game is pretty slow, making it so that you out damage him. Graves also has no reliable disengage, meaning once you get on him, there isn't much Graves can do. Don't invade in this matchup, but if you see him, you can probably kill him. Like most champions, he will outscale you, so be sure to make effective use of the early game.”
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Maltz says “He is simply too squishy for your burst and has no real way to keep you away”
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EvilOranges says “Easy to fight after level 6. Leap onto him and burst him down. If he dashes with E, use Void Assault to follow him.”
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Yzroma says “Graves isn't so good in 9.5, just rush tabi's ninja and you will be able to 1v1 if he doesn't dodge your Q.”
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vanchovski2002 says “Please don't let low range ADC to kill you.
He is no longer in meta..
Why are you still watching this ?? :D”
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Yzroma says “Actuellement Graves est faible contre Vi, essaie de counter gank un maxiumum mais ne tente pas d'invade risquée car il peut temporiser sa mort.”
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The Jhin Cena says “His smoke can screw up your aim for your Q so try and avoid that most of all. Also he could possibly dash out of the way of your Q so try and strike unpredictably or if you know it's down.”
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Leapus says “Easy. Not really much to say, he's an ADC, you are an assassin, ...
Anyway you won't see much Graves jungle nowadays.”
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RenPenGlen says “He loads extremely large amounts of damage which you can counter with ult. You can kite somewhat well.”
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Bombabo says “You will be hopeless against him until you're 6, and you will struggle against him throughout the game, due to his natural tankiness and crazy damage. If you're gonna go for him, be sure to make it quick, and expect to have to ult”
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Aht3ns says “Hard to get close to, so try to bait him into a bush for a closer ranged attack.”
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Killerbacca10 says “You body him. Don't be scared. He can not do much against you if he doesn't get fed from ganks. So play confidently.”
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Tonga Ragnar says “Skill matchup, but a bit bettter for you. It must not be a problem the late 1v1 against this guy, even if he is ahead.”
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Lil Trash says “He is easy to kill early on make sure you don't let him roam around freely in his jungle and let him cs mid game. Other than that he is an easy matchup”
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xMalcho says “Don't fight him lvl 2 or 3 he is much stronger than you.Try killing him when you have ult and you can catch him sometimes when he is doing raptors he will be low on health.Try to ward his raptors or yours because graves players love taking raptors.Raptors <3”
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lolWillieP says “The Graves that cannot kite is fresh tiger meat. If he can kite, then this matchup is semi-difficult”
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Flommer says “You can 1v1 him at any point in the game. Try to invade alot.”
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Toad12138 says “A good graves can destroy you because 1, he can dodge your W easily with his E, 2, he beats you 1v1 easily early game and can invade your jungle constantly, 3, he outscales you late.”
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quinceeeee says “Grave is ranged, mobile, high-damage, which is too much for a morde. He doesn't even need R to kill you, because you just can't touch him.”
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SuicidalKitty says “he is like a shitty kindred against you he can kite with e, is ranged and can w the floor when you jump”
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EvilOranges says “Make sure you get ahead and have high lane presence. Fight him when you have a level advantage, and dodge his Q and his W pre-6.”
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Dayum Draven says “Graves has high burst damage so his damage is on par with you. His smokescreen is important because it denies your vision and every second counts”
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DotXGamer says “This build helps you to chase enemies. Graves shouldn't be much threat.”
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abboz says “He is scary. His burst makes him very strong rn. Be careful not to fight him when hes fed. Use your e to zone him and use ur r and q to steal his dmg and armor”
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Sarutobi says “He is a scaling champ just like you. You are even early/mid game. Try to alpha his Q dmg or ultimate to tip the scale.”
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bluejaypig says “He likes to get in your face so you're at a disadvantage because he deals more damage to you.”
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Fruxo says “Dodge his Q whenever he tries to use it for wave-clear (If he use it). Try to dodge his smoke + R to avoid unnecessary deaths. And be careful of ganks, we don't want any deaths here.”
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Todomagia says “Wait until he runs out of bullets, and carefull with the Q
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Bielu1337 says “Not very hard, but you need to hit your Q on him when he's trying to all-in.”
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Larby says “As easy to kill as any adc. You should be able to delete him. Just don't take extended trades.”
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nZk01 says “He can dodge your Q with his E so try to bait it before.”
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Twist21 says “His lvl 3 is stronger than yours , don't try to solo kill him in the jg but if your laners are stronger than his laners try to take 2v2 / 3v3 fights for the scouttle crab.”
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NicBFC says “Don't 1v1 him unless you are ahead so rather avoid him and counter jungle or counter gank.”
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ArthurCaron says “A lot of damage in early and a good late, probably you will need to build an armor item.”
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AbominableBear says “Stronger dueling through the entire game, you have better ganks and team-fights.”
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WujuBladesman says “he deals more damage than you but if you can dodge his R your gonna win.”
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YakYakYak says “Graves is not very good right now, and you can 1v1 him at any point in the game unless he is super fed or ahead on farm. ”
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Vinnilla says “Stupid amount of early damage avoid if you can, might have to concede both scuttles if team wont help”
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BigBadVoodo says “Extremely hard matchup for us. We can never stay on him as he can kite all the time, and his dmg is pretty absurd. The only time we can even think of killing him is on his red at level 3, but if we make one mistake, it's over.”
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WiskeyANDGin says “weird matchmade, if he knows how to play he can kite u and kill u easy, try to 1vs1 in melee range and see what u get”
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xTheUnlimited says “Pretty strong jungler right now. Not sure what to do against him. Warn your teammates, 2v1 him and just wait for late game where you are tanky enough to compensate his damage. If this guy gets ahead, your game could be over!”
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Yuki Nagato says “Very annoying matchup, if you want a chance at fighting him you have to get the jump on him first and even then he can just E away, be careful of how tanky he can become because of his E stacks.”
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ApexZulu says “Skill matchup, a good graves can effectively beat a Trundle early if he has red buff, so be careful in early 1v1s. ”
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craY13 says “The burst damage he can land is insane. If you manage to survive the burst you can fight him and destroy him very fast.”
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LePlay says “He relies on his E - which is easily blocked by your W - to reload his gun and get some armor, but also deals significant damage with his auto attacks and his Q. Furthermore, you can´t use your E on him while he blinds you with his W”
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PenguinOnStick says “You should be able to deal with graves early on since Jax is almost unstoppable at that time. It will be a bit tricky late since he is very tank. Don't use your E before he uses his. Or Q on him when he has used his E.”
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MaRtOOOOOOOOOOO says “He is probably the best Solo Q jungler right now. He will mosly farm but gank as well not too much but as long as you don't get an early lead he will destroy you and your team. So you will have to get an early lead and counter gank him with your laners. Most of the players below diamond just pick him because he is meta and don't know how to play him.”
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SubSequence says “If he can get you against a wall, you're donezo buddo.
If you can kite, you gottim, Jim.”
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OmnimX says “His nearsighted can screw you over, but he only has 2 bullets. Try to engage him without ammo, or use your charm. If charmed, he will melt like a regular squishy.”
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ElementressX says “This guy is disarmingly strong. Don't let him kite you. IF you do get close enough he is dead. Try to kill him as much as possible, but don't die to the other lanes doing this.”
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Iced IMP says “With a dash that gives him resistances and allows him to stick to you coupled with his damage this match up is quite a challenge. Avoid it at all costs. If you find yourself in this matchup use plenty of wards.”
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Violzandre says “Okay, one of the few real threats, he's going to poke you and run, slowing you, bursting with his abilities when he can do a great dmg, and he farm good too.
Tips? Try to get every red buff in the match when you can, abuse of the wards against him and avoid fighting him alone.
Yeah, you can try using your R and you W to catch him but he have a great mobility too, that's why you need to get every red buff, because you can't kill him if he has it.”
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Wulfery says “In 1 on 1 fight you may have a chance due to E, but he'll still be able to outdps you, especially if smoke screen will be dropped right in time.”
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Predated01 says “Really annoying matchup because he can just perma farm to stay relevant but if he's not ahead he's not that big of a threat.”
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Mundo_Mundo says “Just good at kiting and doing damage early on. Better 1 v 1 and ganks.”
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LordTamaki says “Graves isn't to bad if you charm him. He has very litlle range just avoid taking melee shots and you should be able to defeat him. As with camilla, however, his early game beats yours.”
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Yasuo Comunica says “Okayish matchup against a decent Graves we have the better clear, so try to cheese him. Avoid walls and his w later
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weinerman says “hah, pathetic, don't try to just stand there and out auto this man tho, if he is fed he will shotgun ur weiner and that might hurt, just kite and spell shield his dumb ult and he'll probably die sooner or later.”
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Loul_60 says “Graves is a tricky one, the typical 'outfarming' strategy doesn't really work with him because he has very good clear too, Graves can also out 1v1 you early, just try to powerfarm level 6, get the correct form for the situation (remember Graves is ranged) and then you may be able to fight him and win.”
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IceBrittle says “His huge burst of dmg can kill you very easily on early game”
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TricolorStar says “One of the most dangerous matchups for Evelynn. An AoE blind, stacking Magic Resist, and an execute makes him very, very dangerous. Expect him to take your red or invade you early.”
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Morzanoth says “Graves can be a tricky match for FIddle. The high burst and sustained damage of graves means you cannot fight him in a 1v1. The only time you can risk fighting a graves is if you can land your ult because he won't be able to escape most of the time. ”
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ninja8135 says “He is a beast in the current meta. He has the advantage of range and his abilities give him insane resistances. Do not engage unless you are fed or have an ally to back you up.”
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Razvan1ro says “A decent Graves is ver hard te beat.
He has the tools and damage to beat you.
Just ban him.”
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GamingGaodzilla says “You can beat Graves at all points in the game as long as he's going even with you, although you might have some difficulty against him late game. ”
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Markz says “Graves can kite you fairly well while doing lots of damage to you. He's also annoyingly tanky so unless you have a clear advantage, don't mess with him too much. Focus on getting lanes ahead and counter ganking.”
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GinWinsky says “Skill matchup. If you misuse your W, expect to be chunked.”
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Avarkk says “Graves can be very hard to hit with your abilities. And his E armour passive makes him annoying tanky to try duel. Try to get your lanes ahead against this cigar boy.”
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OddOwl says “Graves will counterjungle and duel you easily. Making it really hard for you to get any buffs and crabs. He also has two abilities to dodge your E and R.”
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RAT 4 says “well graves got dangerous cause of new patch (dark harvest).. try to avoid him i guess and ward ur jungle recently”
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VincentDowel says “He's not much of a problem until he starts one-shotting late-game”
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Razvan1ro says “Stronger dueling at all stages of the game unless he falls behind. You have better ganks.Try co counter gank and avoid him early.
You can 1 shoot him if you have all trinkets available.”
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Asianfury79 says “Broken champ, but other than that farm and team fights are easy win ”
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Exhiled says “He likes to get in your face so you're at a disadvantage because he deals more damage to you.
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GinWinsky says “W, then smash. Might be a problem until 6. Don't fight until then if not confident.”
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SiwanKara12 says “Keep out of range of Graves AA's, since they will hurt you badly. Otherwise you'll be fine.”
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TheGodKingSilver says “Much like Kindred, Graves can kite you fairly well while doing lots of damage to you. He's also annoyingly tanky so unless you have a clear advantage, don't mess with him too much. Focus on getting lanes ahead and counter ganking.”
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0 Ganks Given says “Kindred is actually one of those champs that can stand toe to toe with Graves through out the whole game, and scale beyond him with their marks. Just watch out for his damage he can still burst you faster.”
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Damosus says “Early game you get clapped. He just out damages Yi at many points in the game. If you have Guinsoo stacks and ult you should have a fairly easy time fighting him. DON'T fight early, and watch for invades. ”
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CalebsLegacy says “Don't let him counter jungle you as he is a great farmer. Once ahead, you can't beat him but, you can easily win if you counter jungle him and fight him in the bushes. ”
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KonOCE says “He has fast clear, with a boat load of damage, stay away from walls and try to fight him in the river or in the open, he wont be about to kite you”
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Morzanoth says “Graves is probably the strongest jungler when he is meta. He clears super fast and doesnt even lose HP. Thankfully you are a tank and have a good amount of cc to use. If you get ahead in the match up you can actually bully him a bit and if he mispositions you can kill him with your team.”
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Abidd says “Good Graves players will be able to kite you, however if you see him in the river, always go for him since there's no chance he will escape both Waterwalking and Celerity. You will out damage him, in this sense. Other than that, don't even try it.”
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MetabuserEU says “Pretty strong jungler right now. Not sure what to do against him. Warn your teammates, 2v1 him and just wait for late game where you are tanky enough to compensate his damage. If this guy gets ahead, your game could be over!”
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Warmanreaper says “He out ranges darius , specially cause he has a dash , save your grab for when he burns the dash.”
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ChineseMonkey says “Graves countera o Shaco devido a sua passiva, que joga minions e consequentemente a ShacoBox para trás, fora sua capacidade de te caitar até o inferno.
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xXZwippinXx says “Early On will have a better clear and higher damage scaling, you can catch him off guard once you reach Lvl. 6, try to use your stealth to your advantage.”
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1ShotKitty says “He can Kite you very nice in early u can kill him later he kite's you and his counter ganks are so broke”
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noobynight says “fast and high damage just ping for help and go for back stabs. ”
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Castcade says “Graves Is not hard nor easy to fight his near sight is annoying because you need to waste a q to get out of it without letting the arrows fly to anyone his armor stacking is hard to deal with but you have more dashes i recommend playing safe and do not contest marks with him”
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Meta4our says “You all probably know why u placed Graves on this list it's because he is the perfect counter to Kayn no matter the form,or how much kills you have.
He will always he a strong pick individually and a good counter pick to Kayn”
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Anoying bro5 says “This match up can be annoying. I recommend starting D shield as Graves does early damage and has a significant amount of armor early. Try to poke his vitals early and stick in between your wave. If he trys to aa you and your minions are there, the minions will take the damage. Look to riposte his Q if he has a wall, if not, riposting an aa is fine as well. After 6, your ult is better, just make sure to apply your E slow, or Q+W to catch him after he uses his ult to escape. Be careful of his power spikes as well as he does do a lot of damage into the later stages of the game.”
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Kocykek says “He will lifesteal so much on lane and has crazy damage. Rush Bramble Vest and Sheen and poke him. He's hard to kill since he can one shot you somehow. But if you play smart and block his E you can kill him.”
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Helzky says “With normal Yorick, this would be a Major or even Extreme matchup. However it doesn't matter that he's able to one shot the ghouls with one auto because you can do most of the damage in one burst anyways. Get Prowlers, maiden, destroy him.”
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OliveeGarden says “loser ranged top, take fleet and ghost, max W and rush tier 2 boots. play safe in this lane and wait for a gank. try to play for team fights as you can make more of an impact that he can”
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Your Desired Username says “Easy match-up. Take ignite and rush steelcaps. Spam Q him in lane while staying behind minions so he can't AA you. If he ever E's your Q, E him and murder him. Also, if you ever happen to hit E otherwise, kill him, with ignite and steelcaps you obliterate him in every all-in post level 3. You should look towards getting a lead early as he will outscale you otherwise. With that noted, don't ult him lategame because his damage is kinda crazy then, unless of course if you're ahead.”
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boboderaffe says “I doubt Graves toplane will stay with us, so I’ll not go into any details, except playing it safe. There might be moments where you think you can kill him, but as soon as you ult and walk up to him he will shoot you dead.”
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BreadedBreadCrum says “Haven't VS'd. Probably a great threat. Instant mobility which is hard to follow up on. High damage too. Use your E at lvl 6 to delete his R. Use Q at Lvl 6 to bait out his E and use R to engage as your only way to VS him. Run a rune page with approaching velocity. Grasp is nice, but HoB can work too. If going HoB, go BoRK. If grasp, go Frostfire or Stridebreaker.”
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Black Demon Ezel says “Graves is lethal. He just does way too much damage and his usual kit makes it next to impossible to get him to half health before he kills you instead. My advice to you is to bring grievous because of his ridiculous lifsteal and lots und lots of tankiness to mitigate his damage”
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Rayli36 says “Pretty Annoying Matchup His E(Dash) cooldown gets shorter everytime he's auto-attacking.Buy steelcaps and wait for stridebreaker.And im sorry you need to expierence this dreadful lane.
Take Armor in defensive runes.”
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just pick yone says “Pretty hard matchup, has an easy waveclear and can dodge your abilites just with E, u can go on him once he uses his Q on the wave.”
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FantasysAhlong says “He will have perma-push but you will eventually out-tank him with items.”
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LunaticDancer says “Annoying, but manageable. Take Gambler at your own risk, it's gonna be tricky. Remember that standing behind minions prevents his attack from dealing damage to you, take advantage of that. As most ranged characters, he's gonna cry once you land a proper E on him.”
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COJA says “Respectful until lvl 4-5 where your Q does damage, then you can all in him. Be wary of when he has dash and when he doesn't. Remember that your all in is good, but if he has Shieldbow he can likely survive it. Also remember that his ult is a pseudo-dash.”
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Captain Bane says “easy enough, stand behind minions and damage him with E-cone, but don't engage with your Q while he has his dash up, if you do have flash dodge his ult or predict it. He has high CD's I would suggest going IGNITE/TP because he will be going fleet footwork and you can stomp him if you freeze the wave and trade with him. WAIT: for him to use all his bullets and while he is reloading damage him with E-cone but doesn't push the wave too much.”
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Puglove8244 says “One of the dumbest champs in the game. Get ahead by ganking.”
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Black Demon Ezel says “Graves is just rude. I've had the displeasure of woirking against him only once and I can easily say, NEVER AGAIN! He kites you endlessly and does waaay too much damage to be considered a lvl 3 threat. Go with as much anti-heal as you can so his lifesteal build will be of no importance to you. You also may need to time your ults well and sacrifice some tower damage to go behind him if he gets too dangerous (one kill offa you is bad enough)”
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Jewceratops says “Do not contest his early push, since you can't. Play for level 3 and don't get poked. Post lv6 Graves becomes easy to beat with Steelcaps.”
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davidbiton1 says “can destroy you if given the chance so be very carful.”
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Prof Harambe says “Graves has a lot of positive things in this matchup. His autos can push away daisy, and he can dash away from you to stop Daisy and stall it out. He is hard to poke, trading autos will result in him coming out top, not because of the damage but because fleet is really good. However, he also can't really gain a lead in the lane. In a strict 1v1, he loses especially at 6 and you can play around minions to eliminate his damage. Also has bad mana issues. Basically, you neutralise eachothers lanes. If you think you scale better, fair enough. Graves does scale well but I'm not sure how he would compare to Ivern since their roles are so different. I consider Ivern to scale very well, moreso than a lot of other people.”
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Sovereign Kitten says “The changes to Death's Dance really made Graves a pain to deal with, granting him a ton of tank abiliy. Using (Q) against graves doesn't actually stop him from dealing damage, it just spins him around randomly shooting at anything he manages to hit. He is a very mobile champion with a lot of utility to help him chase and lock you down with his smokescreen.”
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SunFalk says “When he ganks, go under tower and check for him, his ult deals a lot of damage and can kill you while you recall.
His blind makes you unable to fight during the gank”
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Fan22 says “Graves hits hard and S11 got him a lot of items to do even more damage.
In fights try to engage on him and CC him, if your team hopefully helps you theres a chance you can kill him, but since most Graves run Eclipse and Phase rush it becomes hard to get close to him, a Deadmans plate, Randuins omen, or Frozen heart should be good counter items against him.”
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Fan22 says “Graves has good mobility and a lot of damage, and his W which nearsights makes landin your abilities really difficult.
In late game try to engage on him and use your W to prevente him from using his mobility spells and others.
if you are going Glacial hitting Q against graves should be a lot easier.”
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OTP Toxin says “Run in his direction and blind him, that's right, run in his direction, 'cause he will throw the smoke where you are OR in your back thinking that you will run away when you see him.”
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Drake6401 says “Very easy matchup. The minion wave blocks his poke and you can use his reload timer as an engage point. Just let him try to CS and you get a kill window. He's very mana hungry early so be very aggressive with often trades because he can't keep on fighting like Renekton can. Play safe level 1, poke at 2, get mean at 3. If he tries to fight you before three, weave between your minions. Don't run out in the open, that's how to lose. He has no hard CC so you can tower dive him very effectively. ”
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The Real Fake says “You cannot really fight him 1v1 for most of the game, but you can match/beat his clear speed and try to apply more pressure. You offer more utility in teamfights and can mostly avoid him with smart pathing + Phase Rush.”
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PK Noob says “The only problem with Graves is how slippery he can be, but once you close the gap, you can pop him instantly.”
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aurus666lol says “Stop him from scaling! He can win at lvl 1 with ignite and E! Just call jg and thats all! ”
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wff010 says “Not a common top pick, but a very common jungler that likes to come top. Easiest double kill you've ever seen if you manage to kill your laner and they get you low, just walk around minions until your cooldowns are up again and then kill him. That's how you induce clinical depression in a graves and his top will ping him to high hell.”
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calbino says “Graves isn't that much of a threat, but if he gets ahead, he can do a lot of damage and consistently tank 1-2 of your Qs. Just try your best to interrupt his E with your Q.”
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RareParrot says “auto champ block his autos by standing behind minions and dont line up with walls and build plated steel caps.”
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MrRUHEigerTyp says “This guy is the same as Kha too much Damage for you to Handle, Try and work with you're shield.”
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Bettertoplaneggez says “If he gets fed its hard to win. Just blame whoever he laned against.”
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majororange77 says “Full info in Guide.
Great duelist. You can out DPS him and his passive armor is nothing.”
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JeanMichelBambi says “Graves has great kiting potential, able to dodge your abilities or simply run away from you.”
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Spligam3r says “Too much armor, for free. You cannot kill him if he has over 3 stacks or is ahead, but he will definitely focus you since he cant shoot through people.”
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Princess Shuna says “His Counterjungle is insane. Be wary and ward much”
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SpyDaFX says “probably trolling, try to kill at level 2 or at level 6+, you're stronger than him at extended trades and he has only one dash and you have two, soo... pretty easy. (unless he's 6-0 and his auto attacks are insanely strong). go press the attack.”
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Bear24 says “He can kite you out so, all in or nothing at lvl 3, 6 etc. usually go in when he dashes in ”
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MarkFromSingedMains says “Relatively hot garbage, he doesn't have any hard CC to lock you down so is easy to get away from. Your W cancels his E, just don't be stupid early and you'll be fine.”
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syrupmann says “Can kite you well but overall it's not that hard to play against.”
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RankOneZesin says “Graves is a Champion you dont want to face when you are vs him why?
E? gives him more armor also one more heavy autoattack from his gun
also the w slows you and you can see when you jump him and he can gank you izi ”
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Mordekaiserrrrrrr says “Graves is strong against Morde for 2 main reasons: Like Quinn, he can nearsight you to prevent you from hitting your skillshots. He also has a dash that he can easily avoid your abilities with. ”
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TangoVallhala says “Yes this matchup exists and it is cancer, he does high damage, stacks armor, and can dodge all of your abilities easy, do your best to play safe and capitalize on openings, watch for his cool downs.”
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Kief says “I usually permaban this one. Anyone who has a dash will easily look past your gems.”
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ERNESTSAURUS says “CONQUEROR / SPELLBOOK SETUP - DORANS SHIELD / 3 REJUVENATION BEADS + POT =
Graves isn't the ideal pick toplane and its even worse when it comes to lane against Nasus, a weak early game champ that has to be punished or else Nasus will scale like a monster. Be careful with his grit stacks, for everytime he dashes he gains armor up to a ridiculous point. Also be careful with his lvl 2/3 spike, he can all in you really well and get you really low so respect his early game. For laning phase you should look to farm behind your minion wave since his autoattacks don't penetrate though minions unlike the jungle camps. Once you get lvl 6 and Sheen you can easily run him down if the wave is pushing towards your side of the lane with ghost, an useful tip is to look to use Wither whenever he is reloading or just used his E. Later on to the game, he will only be able to kill you unless he has a lot of kills (and I mean a lot of them), otherwise he wont be able to beat you. Also it becomes sort of difficult to kill him solo if you dont have Ghost and he is not solo, It usually depends on how much CC does the enemy team comp has and how far ahead are you of Graves (if you are) to choose either to Splitpush or Teamfighting”
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Gxxllx says “He will kite you and take your camps. Avoid him or take advantage of him ganking your teammates.”
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Grayified says “Lethal Tempo Runes and Build. Ghost + Flash or Ignite + Flash. Long sword refillable potion start. Graves doesn't have enough kiting tools to survive a straight up all in versus Tryndamere. One thing you should pay attention to though is his grit stacks. When graves dashes he gains armor which can stack up to a ridiciulous number which can make him seem very tanky. A good tip against graves in general is that graves autos don't penetrate minions so you can actually hide behind minions and avoid his auto attack damage. Once you hit level 4 thats going to be your ideal time in the early game to allin graves, so make sure that you set up your wave appropriately so that you have room in lane to run him down with your all in. With your W slow, one tip I have is using the w after he has kited out of your auto range and is out of bullets and is reloading.”
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EntxRecoil says “Lethal Tempo Runes and Build. Ghost + Flash or Ignite + Flash. Long sword refillable potion start. Graves doesn't have enough kiting tools to survive a straight up all in versus Tryndamere. One thing you should pay attention to though is his grit stacks. When graves dashes he gains armor which can stack up to a ridiciulous number which can make him seem very tanky. A good tip against graves in general is that graves autos don't penetrate minions so you can actually hide behind minions and avoid his auto attack damage. Once you hit level 4 thats going to be your ideal time in the early game to allin graves, so make sure that you set up your wave appropriately so that you have room in lane to run him down with your all in. With your W slow, one tip I have is using the w after he has kited out of your auto range and is out of bullets and is reloading.”
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Ayanleh says “You are a skirmisher with allot of burst so you can fight graves later on in the game however watchout early as he can invade and destroy you.”
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YamiKhaze says “Stacks alot of armor,has high burst potential vs our squishy champ.”
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Sq_09 says “Weird case. His dash ignores your slow and lets him get all AAs off. If he reloads he's easily kiteable tho. Get out of his screen asap if he uses it but in general neither champion can really kill the other without their Rs. ”
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Itreallyhim says “No problem, yes hes mobile and yes he deals alot of dmg, But land E, then R and finish him off with Q and grasp autos.
Depends on skill.”
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Darkseige555 says “Graves is just a melee with more reach than usually, and without the benefits of a melee. You can fight him easily, wait for him to use q and e to him, blocking his dash to prevent him from kiting. If he lands a w on you, it is safer to just back off and try again later. It also means he is wasting mana and you can abuse this to reduce his mobility, his damage output and make his level 6 useless.”
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Canis858 says “Macht mehr Schaden, je näher er an Yorick ist.
Runen: 1”
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Jackson Gid says “He can kite you really well and can deal tons of damage. Ban if needed”
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RainbowNova says “Graves does immense amounts of damage in the mid to late game, even with his 2-aa handicap. Luckily enough you can blind him, but be cautious as being too late will be the end of your team and you.”
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Qubert64 says “Incredibly easy. Just run him down and chunk him with q in early game. You win scuttle fights hard. The later it goes the less damage he does to you.”
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E61K says “His smoke screen is the only thing that is annoying about him since it can screw with your ultimate. Other than that if you mange to get him he is doomed. He does deal a lot of fucking damage though and he likes to go for crit items. Avoid his smoke screen as good as you can by walking out of it ASAP. ”
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SwiftOblivion says “Strengths: Mobility, Ranged. Weaknesses: Fighting in minion waves, Predictable abilities. High burst potential and has a dash that can make him hard to lock down but if you keep your distance and stand in front of a decent sized minion wave to block most of his damage, you shouldn't have too much trouble during the matchup. Try to side step his End of the Line and you should be fine. If he doesn’t get ahead, you can just run all over him for the rest of the game.”
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Vincheelo says “He hurts a lot. Avoid his Smoke Screen since it slows and blinds you. ”
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Trixelkour says “Very painful and knocks you away. Keep your distance and harass with E and Grasp. Righteous Omen is pretty good to block and slow him down. Phase Rush or Aftershock is optional. I suggest going Protobelt to move around better against him.”
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lunarstaff says “Never underestimate graves' damage. A good graves will auto you twice with an E reset, Q - ULT you and you'll be dead. Just a matter of who finds who first.”
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undeadsoldiers says “Lane Aproach: 3+, don't take too much dmg early and focus on farming with Q.
Key CDs:E/R
Notes:CP, stand behind creeps and he can't damage you.”
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iiCrispi says “Your enemy doesn't have insurance, of course he'll lose.”
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Chaoszero says “he clears faster than neeko and can dodge her abilities and kill her in the jungle”
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Lvl 100 Trunks says “Easier laner to fight, he's just range but wait for his dash, and burst him.”
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CaioOP1985 says “He has a ton of damage at all parts of the game, so be careful with him. Wither screws him a lot, so use the seconds you have top either re-evaluate the decision of jumping on you or kill him.”
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