Discover all champions who counter Heimerdinger. Use our statistics and learn how to counter Heimerdinger in League of Legends and win in Champion Select! Heimerdinger Data for all roles taken from 32,9282113604,19710,90517,259 matches.
As a Support 51% Win Rate57% Pick RateHeimerdinger As a Support Counters: 19,78210,4976,2932,583261148 matches, 34 counter champions
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Tips Against Heimerdinger as a Support Tips Provided by MOBAFire Guide Authors
Apos says “Can be annoying. You can E his turrets or ult turret away. Have to respect his death brush.”
jmp_01_ says “Probably one of the worst match-ups possible. Not much you can do. Take Sweeper level 1 and try to surprise / cheese him from bush. Take Glacial Augment.”
Yoshiking123 says “They can siege against you for free. If nobody else on your team can engage you just auto-lose to sieges. Laning phase is also miserable due to the poke.”
Lurs says “If you can get on Heimerdinger Rakan is pretty good at dealing with him. But his zone control makes it a hard matchup because him and his adc can just be outside of your ranges.”
Aerenax says “Heimerdinger is maybe the most annoying champion to lane against. He has enormous kill pressure and with his turrets he can take full bush control and you have to play around them. Killing his turrets will be hard with your short range, so definitly a matchup to avoid.”
Wounds2 says “Annoying matchup, but Heimer can easily be punished if he wastes his E. Just look to fight wherever his turrets are not. You can fling him away from his turrets to take less damage in trades too.”
WolfDelt4 says “Let them push and destroy his turrets, if your jungle doesn't come, all-in after poking them until they are very low. Watch out for his ult.”
Boptimus says “Another Ranged match up where the higher the skill the harder it gets. You don't have any effective way to deal with turrets early on so you will just have to sit under your tower avoiding poke and CSing as much as possible. Once you complete Lost Chapter you can start looking for Q poke and if they get too cocky you can ult them into your turret for a free lead.”
Boptimus says “Heimer Top is pretty rare to find but very hard to deal with. A good Heimer will just drop turrets and perma push you under tower. If he gets too close you can look for a W-Q3 combo into R under your tower. You can also position to R him away from his Turrets.”
P1Legend says “Stack ap early, every ap component you can find. this match becomes the easiest thing in the world when you can just double W his turrets and have all his damage potential disappear, while also hitting him for 60% of his hp. keep clearing his turrets this way once you stack enough Ap and the matchup is very easy”
Casterslamham says “You can destroy his sentries in like a second just dont get too aggressive and only go for a sentry when he cant punish you then hit it once and then Q it really quickly should be easy.”
Toches says “He's always up in your tower as support or botlane heimer, but otherwise isn't a real "threat" unless you blindly try to go in on him, just use his towers to get bravado going and assume you'll lose a few plates, otherwise he falls off as support way too early for him to matter in the mid/late.
BE AWARE OF EARLY BARONS WITH HIS ULTED Q.”
mellorwastaken says “Hardest matchup for sure, the only way you can win this lane is if you dont leash and look for lvl 2 all-in or even lvl 1, otherwise the lane will be doomed. I usually ban this guy but in low elo its not very common.”
lolkayleee says “[Conqueror + Trinity Force]
[Flash + TP]
Start W. Start Doran's Shield. You're pretty much going to be sitting under tower farming and scaling up. Wait to go in when your jungler comes and try to dodge his stun.”
FunnyBunnyH says “While his early game was nerfed recently, dealing with his turrets in lane is still somewhat problematic for Maokai. Overall easier to punish than before though, so moving him down a tier.”
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arekij says “Because meta in league allows to this kind of champ to play as support it's very bad for Shaco cuz his turrets can solo 2 traps. As well as vs Zyra max [E] and try to go for adc first.”
Amelioratelol says “A good Heimdinger will make it hard for you to land a hook and his allies as he will use his turrets to block your hooks. Though whenever Heimdinger doesn't have his [E] up, just run at him with a healthy amount of hp, then look for an all-in.”
WhiteLotus says “Try to get lvl 1 prio. You can't trade against his turrets, he will deal more dmg then you. Care about the bushes since they might fake B and trap. He will most likely stay in bushes to trap you or someone else in your team to get drake or baron objective, so care about this after laning phase and check them with your Q.”
gizemdeniz says “What can he do other than set up Turret against us? Our range is perfect for inflicting good damage and safely breaking turrets. Together with our ultimate, we can easily defeat him.”
mazewalk says “Long range, annoying CC, tons of damage. He can counter your Q by placing his turrets. You can get him only when he's unaware or doesn't have his setup around.”
Aerenax says “Heimerdinger is maybe the most annoying champion to lane against. He has enormous kill pressure and with his turrets he can take full bush control and you have to play around them. Killing his turrets will be hard with your short range, so definetly a matchup to avoid.”
aRhesty says “You can manipulate his turrets, if he ever uses R-Q you can pick it up lmfao. It's a bad idea on any support to engage onto a heimer support, but you should never die to him in lane as you can simply stay outof range of his turrets and QE their adc if they ever engage.”
Fenreee says “|||ADC, MID & TOP||| Heimerdinger is pretty annoying but not necessarily a counter. He's in the major category because Janna can't really do much to him, due to his passive movementspeed around turrets. Your range isn't long enough to kill his turrets without taking poke, and your max charge Q doesn't kill them either. Your R does knock his turrets around though, which means you can attempt to catch him in an awkward angle and get between his turret nest and him, and use R to separate him from the turrets. You can use flash to accomplish this. ”
Melyn says “Use your QW to take down his plants, stay behind minions, and dodge his stun. The most important thing here is to not chase him too far. Zyra is bad at chasing and Heimerdinger is good at kiting.”
Atemporal says “Yay, o inimigo no meio do Heimerdinger. Prepare-se para sentar sob sua torre lutando pelos próximos 10 minutos de sua vida. Heimerdinger irá empurrar cada onda, ele estará cutucando você com autos e Ws enquanto você não tem nada que você
pode fazer sobre isso. Nunca dê E nele, já que todo jogador de Heimer vai E você assim que você pousar e você sofrerá uma quantidade extrema de dano. Heimer é rápido demais para você acertá-lo com um W e rápido demais para você conseguir um proc passivo nele. Durante
early lane, você só precisa aceitar que será vítima de bullying. Não desperdice seu Q tentando matar as torres dele, ele vai conseguir novas para substituí-las quando as destruir. A única maneira de obter uma boa negociação no início do jogo é se o
Heimer é estúpido o suficiente para amontoar suas torres. Se ele o fizer, espere que ele desperdice seu E e depois W de uma maneira que atordoe as torres e faça uma troca rápida. Tenha em mente que isso nunca funcionará contra jogadores experientes de Heimer. Eles não vão desperdiçar
seu E e eles não agruparão as torres. Se este for o caso, certifique-se de pegar o máximo de fazenda possível, E para evitar o W ou E de Heimer quando estiver cultivando sob a torre. Uma vez que a fase de rotas termina (geralmente quando qualquer uma das rotas bot leva um
torre e começa a trocar de faixa) entre em uma faixa lateral o mais rápido possível. Heimer quer áreas menores com suas torres. Ele não pode ter torres cobrindo uma longa pista lateral, então você poderá facilmente empurrar as ondas e contornar o mapa, ou você pode procurar
emboscadas nele. Depois de Proto, você já estará forte o suficiente para 100 a 0 se você conseguir um W.”
Cheeseypops1 says “Don't fight him pre 6 you will not win unless you pull him in and then flash dodge his stun grenade (E), But at 6 if you ever hit E it's usually free, you can ghost into this guy if you want ”
Frank Morborrigan says “Heimer support is one that ive seen once but occasionally play and can say he could be pretty annoying to deal with especially since he will build zhonyas and make it hard to dive him under tower”
babyyspace says “Heimerdinger only has 1 stun though due to his turrets he can easily catch Yuumi of guard and kill you very quickly. As long as you are aware and do not let him get you surrounded by turrets he is not much of a threat ”
DixonTheGuideMaker says “Trading against Heimerdinger can be extremely tedious, yet it can be done. Taking down his Turrets(Q) will be the main focus in order to poke or trade with him. Once Heimerdinger reaches level 6, his kill pressure and strength increase dramatically. Keep this in mind and beware of his empowered abilities.”
Aenimatora says “He is your total Slave. You can easily put permanent Q´s on his turrets which denies nearly all of his laning style. All in him with Exhaust when you´ve managed to take all of his turrets down. ”
DixonTheGuideMaker says “Trading against Heimerdinger can be extremely tedious, yet it can be done. Taking down his Turrets(Q) will be the main focus in order to poke or trade with him. Once Heimerdinger reaches level 6, his kill pressure and strength increase dramatically. Keep this in mind and beware of his empowered abilities.”
Jageiko says “Heimer is not that hard to kill. Just dodge the grenade, or he'll deal enough damages to make you useless for a while. His poke is good so do it fast or stay safe until you see a window. Be carefull, he often rush Zhonya so watch out for the stopwatch.”
LordZaneLP says “This is a thing now. Annoying af, can perma have prio on his lane and is in general a rly strong pick, so be aware that you can get 100 to 0 by him and his adc. He is a perfect counter against Guardian Champs like you.”
Demonsedge90 says “What can I say his turrets are just annoying, and they make it hard for you to engage on the enemy. DIving him isn't hard but if he has his duo and all those turrets nearby be careful.”
Kurose0027 says “Dodge this damn matchup. Flash is necessary to win in any all in versus Heimerdinger unless you parried his E somehow. Maw 2nd + hope your jg ganks. Not playable.”
Dannala says “He just kind of afk push with his turrets, if you can get past them and avoid getting stunned you can all in him fairly well. Killing his turrets isn't too hard but mana costly if you want it done quick.”
qosmox says “This one is rough, he’s constantly pushing you in and poking you under tower, and taunting him is too risky in most situations. The only saving grace is that your W blocks his turret auto’s, which can be helpful to survive. If you survive the lane without dying you will be impacting the game more than heimer soon enough with your R’s.”
AvengingAvacyn says “Heimerdinger is annoying because he can set up Illuminati turrets to help keep you away from him, which counters your all-in dive combo.”
Hienaa says “Won't let you roam, you cant kill his tower without dying, you will need a lot of jungle help, but the only thing you can do is try to get 6 asap and then spam jungle for help, but you will always be stuck in lane until you can go split side”
Agatrium says “Just another annoying ranged toplaner, though I rarely see him in top these days, the one game out of one hundred that you do fight a Heimerdinger top will make you want to ban him every game from here on. Just play passive and farm as best as you can. Jungle assistance might be able to grant a kill, but be careful, his 1v2s are actually very strong. ”
a8qoyrl says “As a very off-meta support, you won't see him too often, but they do exist, i know because I am one lol. A good heimer support will do just as much, if not more damage than the enemy carry. The turrets are NOT affected if you exhaust or Glacial him, so he will be doing max damage through turret lazers. Be extremely wary when engaging, honestly dont engage.”
LeeTV says “Just like shaco and zyra, heimer's turrets make thresh's laning phase difficult as he can stand behind these turrets preventing thresh from landing hooks.”
Rasta Da Masta says “In this matchup, don't leash for your jungler. Get to lane and destroy any turrets he's placed. Prioritize killing his turrets over everything else as it denies his waveclear, move speed, and 2v2 power.”
lin00 says “Champion that can block down turret and block your hooks makes it almost impossible to engage on him if Heimerdinger has decent reaction time. Avoid fighting inside his turrets and take out turrets before engaging in a fight. He stores up to 3 turrets, the flowing cog around him tells how many he is currently stored up.”
CorgiBorgi says “Try and use your W and autos to get rid of turrets, his turrets blocks your turrets, and he can destroy your shield easily so put an extra early point in your E.”
Luiscencias says “Nowadays he's more likely to be the carry bot, yet league still classes him as support so here you go. Don't run into his turret fire and let him push like a dum dum until you can get a spicy gank”
TheBestestBork says “I hate him, and you should too. You can't dive him easily, and he will sit in your damn Tribush nearly every post leash just to poke you out of early XP. Honestly, just play Lux or something, its atleast kinda fun then.”
Lugos says “Just dont let him land his empowered abilities on your. You dont need to go close to his turrets, so he cant kill you unless you go carelessly into his skills.”
Avyxia says “You can w his turrets and stun him through minions and turrets so he just loses to us. Keep in mind he has a slight movement speed increase when near his turrets or towers”
Go Getter says “You destroy this guy!!
His turrets are really dangerous for you early game if he's the support but if you manage to survive to mid game, you just ruin this guys day with your Q and your ability to dive past his turrets.
Don't fight him like you're invincible though, he can still melt you and will punish you if you let him.”
Vispectra says “I class this match up as minor because yes , you won't be able to kill him , but that goes the same way for him. He's just a nuisance in lane but later on you'll make him regret picking Heimer. Be sure to avoid his stun at all costs.”
HerYandere says “If he has a poke support, give him the lane and look to roam a lot. Your ADC might hate you for that, but if you don't he can scale hard and carry the game. If he has any other kind of support, engage onto him ONLY and you should be fine.”
terrybogar1 says “Not a common matchup but it is easily the most boring farm lane. He has all the to stop you from getting your grimy paws on the enemy adc, while also dealing massive damage. Go in on him if he is out of his turrets though. he dies pretty easily.”
Esoterica says “Heimerdinger botlane is rare but always effective. He excels at pushing you in and ramping up to feel safe in his lane.
Coordinate with your ADC to destroy his turrets as soon as possible, but without being baited into his damage as you walk up.
Avoid the grenade and you have an easy kill if you land your chain.”
SirGRC says “Rune: Fleet Footwork
He will have you permanently shoved under your tower. Although he will hit like a truck if you are not careful, once you hit six, he will have no real way to deal with you sense you can just simply ult past his turrets.”
VeneficusFerox says “Aim Q well to take out multiple turrets at once. Also, Blue Card can take out turrets quickly. At early levels, Heimer will not be able to replace turrets fast enough, so you can push back.”
GamingFrog says “You just destroy this guy. You can block almost everything in his kit with your E. He is also very squishy early on. One thing you have to watch out for is him blocking your Q with his turrets.”
Scimitarra says “Very easy opponent to take down, just prioritize your W instead of Q to destroy its robots, just be careful not to steal the waves of minions to your ADC.”
Starchase says “Try to poke him lvl 1, he can't do much about it.
Care at lvl 2 and lvl 3, his stun can be devastating.
Care about his lvl 6 burst combo, rush Mikael's Blessing.
You outscale him.”
XD001 says “Never fight him, he will kite you and his turrets will slowly but surely kill you if you run into him. Focus on CSing and invest into early Verdant Barrier if the enemy team has a lot of AP champions. Eventually you can close to 1 shot Heimer in the mid/late game. Look for a flank and do everything you can to not get hit by his E stun.
Even scaling
electrocute + sorcery + tp”
xDopii says “Not played a lot but very strong. His turrets can deal a lot of damage and block your hooks. He also has decent mobility near them, so try to take his turrets down before you engage and don't get baited by him.”
XtrassXio says “Heimernig- i mean heilmerfuher likes to put metal in peoples penises. he usualy does it at night time, dr mundos ponis is soo big that heimendinger has to use his biggest turret in his cookhole”
icebombhunter says “Usually no one pick him bot, but someone does. Hail of blades, rush mercury and roam, he is difficult to grab due to the ms bonus, but he is suishy af, e flash and he is dead. If you get fed, e him auto him and r him.”
fishbully says “ONLY IN SUPPORT ROLE: Heimerdinger is a bully because of his turrets. It prevents Janna from being able to poke. Because of this fact I recommend taking a safer build path & runes (aery or guardian)”
FiddlesticksChan says “Play very safe and wait for your opportunity to get fed in the mid/late game. You will never beat him in lane because he out trades you hard with turrets. Farm hard and try to scale. Tiamat is good.”
Remmacs1 says “This match up is really hard for Aphelios because Heimer is so good at dishing out damage while kiting back. I recommend trading when Heimer wastes his cooldowns and never outcommit too deep into a fight.”
Navn says “Attack his turrets and maybe even start Q. You need to get rid of his turrets as fast as possible as his strength will be you permanently push you in and poke you underneath your turret.”
jessuva says “Sometimes I see a Heimerdinger support. He can be super annoying, but if you dodge his abilities, he doesn't pose much of a threat. He can't buff his ADC at all. Bonus: his turrets give you gold :)”
Hceercs says “Good luck doing anything when he can block hooks with turrets, and if you take any hooks you'll probably just die inside his turrets. No worries because only psychopaths play Heim.”
Manzey says “Heimer is really easy for you, since Heimer usually wins by pushing, but as AD TF that is the dream for you, as you can sit back and farm and relax and get your early Blade of the Ruined King and win the game and snowball your farm to a win”
SkellyBirb says “Heimerdinger relies on his turrets and they deal most of his damage. You can jump right on top of him and burst him, but he will poke you a lot in lane. Catch him when he isn't near his turrets and abuse his turrets with your Q.”
Reason97 says “While Heimerdinger can do a lot of damage, it's almost all dependent on you to mess up. Keep breaking down his turrets, and keep in mind that if they're in your blizzard, they break down over time same as anything else in it. Dont hard engage onto him until the field is almost clear of all turrets. Heim outputs most of his damage when people underestimate him, so dont give him that satisfaction. also, while he has a stun, its underwhelming at best, since the area he has to hit to actually stun you is very, VERY small. Let him run lane until you hit 6, then start pushing back. A big edge in your favor, as long as you don't do something stupid. ”
Vahlok says “Why does this thing exist? We don't know, we also don't know how to counter him. Be careful as he can stop your hook just by placing a turret in front of him. He will also use zhonyas while you get lots of damage waiting for him. Just try to not tilt and be patient, maybe your time to shine is not at early game!”
Mickeystick says “(ADC DISCLAIMER) He can hold the lane by himself. Turrets block Nautilus hook. HIGHLY enables Malphite because it means the lane goes even until level 6 where Malphite can burst carry.”
M.P.C says “Very very annoying to lane against since you can't bully him and he always pushes lane thanks to his turrets, so take advantage of that. Let him push and get CS while you farm for CS under tower, ping your jungler for a gank since Heimer will always be over extended.”
Stiwy says “He's not that strong, he's just frustrating and, as we all know, frustration can make you do bad choices.
Just start Cull and farm, then rush a Spectre's cowl and look for mid/late game.
Gank/fights are risky when he has turrets on but if he somehow wastes them you have a bit of time where you can kill him”
TotallyEclipse says “There's a small window lvl 2-3 where you can all in him if you set your wave up properly. Kill him twice and you'll kill him forever. Rushing mercs can be good here. If he gets to level 6 uncontested you lose.”
Loki029 says “Use his Turrets too your Gold Advantage, but be Aware of their high damage, he has a stun and slow so don t fight too early, try too don´t let him freeze, because he will be a Monster near and maybe late Game.”
Flint124 says “You can easily clear his turrets while you poke him down with E.
Once those are gone, his lane control is gone too, and suddenly there's very little he can do if you were to wither him.
Just don't try to waltz into his turrets like a dumbass and you'll be fine.”
Tult says “While Heimerdinger support is not that good, Heimerdinger ADC is a terrifying threat to blitz as he can and will poke you out of lane and block your hooks with his turrets.”
Daedralus says “Don't let the difficulty I set fool you on this one, as there are certain things that you must of course avoid or the lane might turn in his tides a bit too much! Never, ever try to push him under his tower, and do watch to dodge his missiles. A good idea is to wait for a turret to lose health so that is halved. This way, you can kill it much faster, and considering your enhances autos, it should be a one shot from this point. If you see him toggle his ult, either ult him before he can use any of his abilities, or dodge whatever is coming. It really is not a good idea to fight under his big turret. Overall, this lane isn't that hard due to him not having a great deal of burst damage, but a lot of DPS. But that gives you the advantage as you can heal what you lose, as long as you don't get hit by the stun or the missiles. Aim for spirit visage, and the lane should be yours. He also has nothing against your super speed.”
Aizenvolt says “Heimer is annoying with his turrets . Dont ask for ganks no point. The only ones who will die are you or the jungler in most cases. After 6 you can kill him but dont be too aggresive wait for the right moment ask for help to be sure one little mistake and you are dead. ”
Zer0XM says “Any good Heimer can be a HUUUGE problem for any melee support and especially so for a Naut, the turrets deal huge dps and everything else is massive poke, otherwise if you CAN hook him away from the turrets then your set.”
Quezel says “He will constantly shove you in and harass you early game but once you get ult you can poke his turrets down from range and engage on him once he uses ult just ult him and collect 300 gold.”
Zefirez says “Recommended rune set: Hail of Blades (quick passive charge for leaving the fight fully stacked or with empowered E)
Alternatively Phase Rush - to grab his aggro and then make a swift retreat outta turret range with E, once you've tanked all you could.
Don't ask. I don't know how that abomination ended up bot, but it happened in large enough number of games to put him here.
Buy Maw of Malmortus and merc threads. Try to all in him, then quickly go into E to tank the HUGE abuse that is sure to follow. You can also try q tapping his turrets to dismanle this fortifications. Generally the rule here is to engage, do damage quickly, tank the retalliation while your adc will finish the work since all his turrets are focused on you.
Still this guy is just plain cancer bot.”
THEBURGERKING says “Heim Bot is quiet annoying as his turrets will activate your boxes and will also outlast them, you almost entirely rely on your adc to destroy turrets. ”
spark2 says “Heim is a weird matchup. On the one hand, he's incredibly hard to trade against when he has his turrets set up, and he's got great poke. On the other hand, he tends to sit in the middle of his turrets, which means his movements are very predictable. This means really easy Ws for you, and the shield will help against the turrets. Exploit that, kill his turrets with Q, and he's not so bad.”
Asothin says “Low health very little mobility when around his turrets, you can easily kill his turrets with your Q's though and deny him the buff. Dodging his grenade is vital though. If you think it will hit at least hit W as if there are any turrets nearby they will instantly charge and get free heavy hits on to you. Similarly if he hits majority of his W (at least 5 of his rockets) he will instantly charge his turrets (20% per rocket). Getting boots early on is advisable along with magic resist if unable to destroy turrets in time. Flashing away from his ultimates may be necessary to prevent majority of the damage. In case of the turret ultimate move away until it despawns or poke it down from range. Before engaging with R attempt to deplete his turrets. If he is not placing them down know that he can stack up to 3 of them and place them all down at the same time. Avoid engaging (just poke), if he has not placed a turret for a long time. Due to his lack of mobility however you can fairly easily harass him with your E and Q combo though slowing him with the W first may be necessary.”
SirZeros says “Do not play aggressive, it will cost your life! Just farm, until you get to mid-late-game, which shouldn't be much of a problem against Heimerdinger.
If he hugs a turret or a minion, just stun him, but watch out for his turret's empowered shot.”
best teemo says “start: doran shield, magic resist rune
How he will try to trade against you:
the trade that will deal the most damage to you is when heimerdinger will try to bait you into walking up to hit his towers, then throw his stun on you.
How to win trades pre6:
Bait heimerdinger into wasting his stun bomb by walking up to his tower, then walking back until he uses his stun bomb, your goal in this lane is to survive and keep baiting heimerdinger to use his abilities on you until he is out of mana, once he is out of mana, or very low, you can walk up to him and kill him.”
The Jhin Cena says “Early game you will want to slit your wrists when you play against Heimer. His turrets will be everywhere and really chop down your health when you get into melee range. Because of this, I wouldn't recommend trying to kill Heimer until level 6, unless he is very trash. Good news is at level 6, your R > Q > E > W combo should kill him, except maybe if he for some reason has tank runes. However even though you can get fed off of him, pushing will be a bit difficult because after you kill him, his turrets would have probably gotten you to about 40% HP or so, and you don't want to risk loitering in the lane.”
adzzb says “When you have 1,000,001 turrets constantly pushing and poking, the end result is a lane that stays at your tower. Ask for jungler ganks and try to farm up as best as you can. Heim as a champ is squishy however you always need to be wary of how much damage he can output when you go in.”
hipstersora says “Out clears you with turrets. Focus on killing his turrets with Q. Might even be worth it getting an early Hextech Gunblade for the sustain and farming capabilities, but that's a different build. ”
MasutaKokoBot says “Heimerdinger can hit you while you're behind your team, but a good banshees veil should protect you. Keep your allies healed up and they can take care of the rest.”
Shderen says “Heimerdinger mains don't fuck around, similarly to Wukong mid players. There's a sense of confidence they emit, so be wary and see if he has that confidence (check mastery points/skin). Your Starcall CAN kill his turrets at certain points in the game, but since Needlessly Large Rod no longer builds into Luden's, your core item, you probably cannot do it early anymore. Threat level increased.”
Fruxo says “Take care of his turrets and he won't be able to do anything. Dodge his stun or you might possibly die because of it. His main focus is to farm up as he's very vulnerable early on, he's also very immobile so ganks are very useful in this kind of matchup.”
xxMyDixieRektxx says “A pain in the cheeks to deal with his turrets. Try to take as much turrets out with the least amount of poke as possible, since thats where his damage is going to come from. Remember to swallow your carry if they get stunned.”
SawyerNelson says “Can block your hook with turrets. When you get onto him he drops his big turret and stuns you. If you land a long range hook it's good, but easier said than done. You can feint an engage onto him and lanturn your ally away then rengage for the best outcome.”
NocUout says “This is very annoying to deal with, but he is a glass cannon. If he lands a stun on you, consider yourself dead. Avoid his stuns, and try to kill his turrets before going in.”
Bigfish04 says “If you meet a good Heimer at top, his lane control will stop you from taking any cs. Yes, you have your E, but what is more frequent? your E? Or his abilities?”
Rasta Da Masta says “Historically, Ziggs usually beats the Dong since Ziggs can just bomb his turrets. Try not to take damage when trying to destroy them. You may need to put 2 points in Q for the lane phase.
Poke down the Donger, destroy his towers, and fight pushing with pushing.”
drunken hunter says “Heimerdinger will suk arround with his turrets on lane. You can do the poke, the lvl 2/3 engage and wait for good situations to fight him - he cant trade you melee, he wants you to stay in range but not right infront of him. Heimer is squishy, go a bit tanky and kill him while you ignore his turrets. If Heimer went base, use the time to destroy his turrets even if he will make new ones when hes back on lane.”
Guychk says “He can deal a lot of damage, and he can easily 1v2. His turrets block your Q, which really isn't optimal. Also he gets a movespeed boost from staying near his turrets. You should dodge if your against a Heimerdinger.”
Prenora says “Heimerdinger is notoriously annoying, focus on out csing him, and destroying his canons as thats his main form of cs. after 6 feel free to take him out as he is still pretty immobile”
undeadsoldiers says “Let him push you in and farm under tower while poking out his turrets with Q and AAs.
Avoid his W and E. They're difficult to land so this should not be hard.
Don't dive his turrets unless you're able to ult in to throw a bubble at him.
Back off if he creates an ult turret.
If you manage to kill off his towers, he's easy pickings.
Suggested: Rush Sheen to oneshot his towers with autos”
Top Lane 52% Win Rate20% Pick RateHeimerdinger Top Lane Counters: 6,0153,1122,0687245754 matches, 55 counter champions
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Tips Against Heimerdinger in Top Lane Tips Provided by MOBAFire Guide Authors
FaNTOP says “Оставайтесь рядом с башней и спешите купить "Поступь меркурия". Старайтесь наносить ему как можно больше урона издалека.”
demirkaiser says “Another creatura. Don't try until level 2. E + Q him and try to run him down. Don't fight until 6. After 6, let him place his tarrets and you can ult him. His tarrets stays out of the realm but dodge his W and E.”
TheGBabaYaga says “You really cant do much. Play defense and farm as much as you can, it will be hard. He is quite annoying cause of bots and he spams spells. Engage with jungler if you can or he is running out of mana, its the only way to kill him.”
kayle1v9 says “cull first recall and farm under tower, kinda free because u get to scale. just be careful to not get poked out of lane to fast. TP is must here.”
St0rmyss says “Go lethal tempo and teleport with dshield start. play safe and farm, if he wastes E then you can try to kill him or if he doesn't have mana. ”
Twogrand says “This is a tough match up but you have to mack sure you click on to see how many turrets he has it will show on his picture so what you try to do is clear them all out and all in him when you cant place any towers downs . hard to clear towers just farm get hexdrinker and start to land poke.
conq, tp eclipse.”
PH45 says “Not really playable. Play to farm up and only engage with your jungler if suitable. Best chances to kill him are when he is out of mana or if he somehow misses his stun grenade. Dshield and second wind recommended.”
rilxy4u says “Hard matchup both psychically and mentally. Turrets attack and activate boxes, you can't trade with E, he will 1 combo you or poke to death with no outplay against him, all the while saying that you are "smaller than the diagram". Keep your head up king, 2 inches is more than enough.
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Outplay: play passive, trade with your E, try to not feed by playing too aggro, engaging on him is pretty difficult but if you are able get him low enough there is kill potential from all in.”
Black Demon Ezel says “Heimerdinger is a nuisance to deal with. Not just because he's got way to much cc, but because his turrets will just chip away at your health bar endlessly and they don't have a time limit of activity like Shaco's boxes. Avoid this matchup if you see it. Just play someone else”
Mnem says “Go with Conqueror or Fleetwork, Second Wind Unflinching. Rush Mercury Treads and Hexdrinker if you are having trouble with it. Avoid being pokeed by him and focus on your CS and save HP, play on his mistakes and ganks from your jg. Bait your E and turn on Ghost and all in on him or when he gets close to your tower. Build Mercury Treads, StrideBreaker and Maw of Malmortius (if having problems with it in game).”
Vixylafoen says “Oppressive laner, but he can't really kill you if you just be safe about it. Farm off of his turrets with Q for some extra, free gold”
Reines Kokosfett says “You have to dodge his E with your E. Then you should just be able to run him down and kill his turrets. You can also use your ult to block the e stun and your ult shield to tank some of his tuerrets damage.”
LeyzeHP says “(Top) Fleet, assassin build. This champion might be annoying but for rengar it's pretty easy to beat him early, don't fight him lv1, focus on taking level advantage. The only thing that can make you loose a trade or stop your all ins is his E, if he misses it punish him.”
Ulamog says “Conqueror Build; Second Wind + D Shield.
Let him push, he will anyways. Once he oversteps too far you can jump onto him and parry his E. If you hit the stun correctly you will win the trade. You will have to go Hexdrinker first item + Goredrinker as mythic so you can outsustain his turret dmg in later game.”
stefanko says “Unplayable matchup, go second wind and d shield, play to farm up. Only window you have to kill him is when he is out of mana. (fleet, teleport)”
Tonho says “You burst him fast enough while being a hard target for his E. You can ignore his turrets if you land everything. After Zhonya's, you may be more careful. Overall simple matchup. Bring Conquer, run at least one tenacity on runes.”
lorensj81 says “This is an annoying lane. He will push you in so a quick Ironspike whip to waveclear under tower. Try early to kill his towers and dodge his spells, especially his stun will deal massive damage if 3 towers attacks you. He gets move speed walking close to his turrets, so can be hard to catch. If you get onto him and have dodged his spells, he is just dead after level 6.”
GannicusTTV says “He is annoying to deal with it, but not impossible. Kill his turrets when you can and dodge his stun. if you constantly kill his turrets, he will be vulnerable to some all ins. your W block his turrets damage. ”
Irelius says “Не получаем слишком много поука. Доджим его стан. Персонаж появляется раз в тысячелетие, потому чего-то конкретного сказать не могу. Ломаем ему туррельки, авта+Q должно хватать с лвл 7, но это не точно. ”
Azekar says “Conqueror+Second Wind.
Start Doran Shield.
Ignite+Teleport.
Another matchup that is not difficult despite the reviews. Avoid his stun and he won't cause any problems if you just start attacking him. With your W you can dodge his turrets as well as all his other abilities. If he gets too close, just kill him. Play defensively though, because Heimer will be pushing all the time, so you shouldn't have a problem farming.”
JustSad42 says “Get Second Wind, Unflinching and Doran Shield. You can’t leech in this matchup. You have to walk straight to lane and instantly kill Heimer’s turrets as soon as he spawns them or you will lose all wave control. When Heimer reaches level 3, you want to forget that he has his E (stun). It’s much more consistent to just try to damage Heimer and go on him than it is to try to predict his melee range E. After you get stunned, you can W the turret damage and mitigate some of the damage and that will be much more consistent. You will want to get an early Null-Magic Mantle. Something to note is that if you don’t get MR against Heimer, no matter how behind Heimer is, he will always have the ability to oneshot you after he gets level 6. He will just stun you into his empowered W and it will be a oneshot even if he’s 0/5. Trying to fight him after he gets Zhonya is pointless, so you will want to avoid side laning against him and instead look to get CS, enemy jungle camps and pressure the map.”
SrMolinv says “Break his towers everytime you can. Doran shield is super useful. Hes super squishy, he only kills you if he hits E or has exhaust. Dont let this yordle bully you.”
AlyssaTennya says “If he lanes against you, dodge. Don't ban him, heimer top is rare. But if you think he's top definitely dodge. If he's mid, it's whatever, because you can kill him if you didn't have to lane against him.”
V1kt0r555 says “[Summoner Spell: Teleport or Ghost]
[Starting Item: Doran's Shield]
[Don't stay near his turrets]
[Dodge his W and E]
[Ask for your jungler to help if he pushes hard]”
Antisocial_Renekton says “Dont fight him, try to just farm.
You can try all in him, after hexdrinker mercs with r and ignite.
ALWAYS LOOK FOR HIS STOPWATCH BEFORE ALL INS.”
RandumPersin says “100% unwinnable matchup. Must take PTA, use E1 to dodge the grenade and all trades will go even at best. Heimerdinger perma shoves waves which is something that is very problematic for us since it will destabilize and completely destroy our fury management. He outscales us and is more valuable to his team at all points in the game (except for maybe levels 6-9), Heimerdinger is one of our worst matchups; the lane sucks since he's bursty and a ranged mage, making the game hard to play and he can abuse us forever. Rush merc treads and pray you can hold weakside”
Fizzy says “Fleet Footwork it's very useful against him, poke him and the machines so removing them as fast as possible, always try to destroy them before moving forward to kill, if you hit the stun it's a guaranteed victory”
RuchaczSzmat69 says “Dont trade with him early as his turrets are pretty sick, stay under the tower and take cs, if he ints and gets behind its free lane, if he doesnt wait for some items and lv7 and then you can fuck him. Dont underestimate him as he is pretty tricky and can turn tables around during the trade if you dont pay attention.”
hamgi says “his turrets are very annoying as it prevents u from cs'ing healthily and chasing him into bushes is dangerous. however, they are easy to take out with q3+aa and they give 5g. it doesnt seem much in the moment, but if u consistently take them out, the gold stacks up. his w and e empower his turrets's attacks on the enemy unit they hit, so try to avoid being hit by them. they're all skill shots but can go thru minions, so avoid standing too close to them and consistently move or bait with e. like karma, his ult empowers his spells, his q a large turret, his w a longer, stronger, and wider barrage, and his e a double bounce. early laning phase is annoying as the poke builds up, so a refillable and a mantle/spectral early will go a long way. he is hard to trade with as they mostly let their turrets do all the work, allowing them to play far back, but consistently destroy his turrets. when fighting, get on top of him, and keep him locked up so he cant place more down or stun u with e”
Smudey says “Ranged matchup. Don't fight him ever unless your jungler ganks. Take TP 100% of the time and play for Ults since Heimerdingers Scaling sucks and he doesn't do tower damage (afaik)”
StingingChicken says “You can jump on him anytime he's in range without a huge wave, E'ing towards him blocks all damage from his turrets even if they're behind you. EIther juke or E his stun, getting hit is a death sentence.”
Dekar173 says “ELO DEPENDENT FOR DIFFICULTY
P: -
Q: 20
W: 11 > 7
E: 11
R: 100 > 70
Runes vs Heimer: Grasp, Conq, Fleet
HIGH Econ: Conq + Bruiser
MID Econ: Grasp + Stasis
LOW Econ: Fleet + smite Lethality (you for 1 in late game, or split potential)
Strengths: VERY good turtling, great siege, insane Baron potential, super safe pick, magic damage, 'hyper carry' if fights go his way.
Weaknesses: Immobile, Heimer players are weak af, no sustain, glued to turrets, ult dependent for skirmishes
Notes: Figure out your 1 shot combos on his turrets, and play the mana game/charge game vs his turrets + W/E poke. Save 4 stack for his E or the charged turret shots, Ravenous Hydra is strong here for the AoE to kill his turrets.
It takes 2 smites to kill his big turret.
DONT let him cheese your jungle's Blue/Red (depending which team you are).”
TwTv EUWXYZ says “this matchup is lowkey unplayable, u can only all in if he used his E before 6 when he uses his E and he is 6 there is most likely no all in potential possible since he can just kite arround his turrets”
Elresser says “he favours longer trades and you favour shorter ones. I still can't figure this one out so I'll put him on even for now. Note: don't fight him on his ultimate turret.”
kajinator says “Use the Q max ability order. Bring Phase Rush and Flash + TP or you have automatically lost. I'm not exaggerating teleport is mandatory into Heimerdinger. You will have no kill pressure on him ever and you will just have to sit under tower and farm until you can roam and make plays with your team as you are a better team fighter than him. ”
Evandabank says “Heimerdinger is a champion that most bruisers cannot play the game against. The one saving grace in this matchup for Kled, is that he does way more damage than the other bruisers.
Heim is so lethal because it is almost impossible to take a positive trade into him with his turrets. Kled is no exception and short trades are always going to be a loss for you. Allow Heim to push you under your tower and wait for level 5 so that you have 3 points in your Q. At level 5, look to engage onto him, preferably if he only has two turrets active. It is also ideal if you can pickup a pickaxe before looking for your first all-in to ensure you have the damage to kill him. Flash in this lane is very very bad for you in my opinion. If you run TP and ignite, look to take an early reset after poking him down. You will lose the trade however, you can then TP back to lane and all-in him with an item advantage. If you are having problems engaging onto Heim, start hitting his turrets like an ape and then once he auto attacks you, E-Q combo on top of him.
Heimerdinger is always squishy into the mid/late game. Look to hide in bushes in sidelanes and try to kill him before he can get his turrets set up when he comes to clear waves.”
BreadyToCrumble says “This matchup is easy because Heimer has no choice but to permanently push the wave. This means you can farm up and burst him down in lategame. Be careful because he also has early kill pressure on you!”
SrMolinv says “Romperle las torretas, escudo de doran y buscar tradeos cortos. Los all in son muy faciles, solo tienes que esquivar su stun. Es tan blandito que es facil de matar.”
CupcakeDinosaur says “Heimer poses an extreme threat after level 3 as your passive jump is quite predictable and he can stun you with his E inside of his turrets' range for tons of damage, so try and bait his E before engaging and trade for as little time as possible”
Duwiiton says “Get your jungler to the Toplane after baiting his stun, and it should be a pretty free kill. Heimer has no defense other than his stun and turrets. Don't bother fighting him in his turrets.”
Oogaboogaga says “If top you can run past turrets and kill him quite easily. Play safe until he overextends. Give up farm if you need to. If mid it is somewhat harder as he has a turret to run to. With jungler you can easily kill as he has to overextend top to assert lane pressure.”
Irelius says “Dont get poked too much early. Dodge his stun. Havent played this matchup in a while. Q+AA his turrets. I believe, at lvl 7 your Q starts to oneshot his turrets and that's why this matchup is this easy, ”
dracondas says “annoying matchup if you grab him just send him back to arcane and he dies avoid all his cc and rockets cuz it does a lot of damage and so does his turrets go for the force of nature approach”
lenithebot says “Heimerdinger has insane zoning with his turrets and makes it very hard for you to poke him without losing a lot of your own hp but with his low hp if you can land a few barrels and qs you can try to all in with flash passive and ignite to try and kill him but it is very risky since if he doesn't die you probably will”
DixonTheGuideMaker says “Once Heimerdinger reaches level 6, his kill pressure and strength increase dramatically. Keep this in mind and beware of his empowered abilities. Let him push the wave closer to your tower and destroy him together with your Jungler.”
Thrandor says “Not much to say, this is somewhat a natural counter. Keep track of his build to see if he has Stopwatch or Zhonyas. Before that you can try engaging him with R, afterwards, I don't recommend doing that”
CosmicTurtle88 says “Absolutely impossible, dodge 100% of the time. If you're forced to play it then try to kill his towers once you're level 3 with Q+auto and he'll lose some pressure. Realistically though you
have no chance unless he hard ints. Even the jungler cannot save you.. ”
Farmer Cleetus says “Major threat, can phase you away if you are not able to use your W to save yourself, he'll also kite you so he cannot be damaged at all, be careful when facing him.”
Yiphen says “Start Doran's Shield and Win Lane. Rush Wit's End. He out-pokes with his turrets you but you can Q + E at him whenever he misses his W or E. He needs both to combo you. Hide behind your minions. You should be able to zone him enough to (relatively) safely auto his turrets down. It's worth using Ghost to chase him since his turrets push the wave to you. Back away when he Ults . It's unnecessary to freeze against him. Do not dance.”
Taiquyorah says “Farm lane. MU chiant car intuable et il peut vous poke mais vous devriez être capable de farmer surtout dès que vous avez brillance.
Et vous gagner en late game avec un stuff critique !”
buuu1401 says “(TOP/MID) Have fun brother. IF you all in him well make it count bro if you don't hit your abilities well you are dead trust me. (he is a pain)”
wooverbo says “You'll be sitting next to your tower all laning phase, there is no point to playing against him, just dodge. Keep in mind he can 1v2 you and your jungler and win if he positions well. The only good thing about this matchup is that there are no more than 2 Heimerdinger players in the world...”
HelloStranger says “PHASE | Flash + Ignite/Ghost
AFK under turret and farm for 30 minutes. You can try to proxy and it will probably be more effective than being an afk bug for heim to swat. I would consider dodging if you have the LP to spare this matchup is beyond ruined for Garen.”
WildSamu says “DShield + Red Pot.
His turrets can be very annoying, dont fight him if he has a lot of them out. It's crucial that you dont get hit by his E stun, use your E to dodge it and only engage on him if he doesnt have it.
His turrets will auto-push, just sit under tower and farm if necessary.
Pretty easy to gank if he overxtends and doesnt have ult.”
kurbart says “free lane if your having trouble with big head here just poke him down and make sure every time he puts down a turret break it they go on a 20+ sec cool down then after that just run him down kind of sad killing him ”
VituVonDoom says “Boooooriiiiiiing. Like, really, why play him? Just go FS and get rich poking him and just farming. DON'T EVER ENGAGE HIM, that's the only way he ever kills you. QE him to hell and just accept the fate of some of the most uninteractive 15 minutes of your life”
KrazyKid1024 says “Same deal as hecarim. Our ulti as rengar is telegraphed so he can use E to stun you if he's good. Then you lose. But if he doesn't then it's usually free.”
Aberrant Demon says “He'll push by default, chill and let it happen. Stay as healthy as you can and W either of his skillshots if they are going to land. Only kill his turrets if it won't put you in a vulnerable position. Post-6 you can brute force with Ghost all-in. Always check if he has Stopwatch/Zhonya's Hourglass before going in.”
TrinityForceYasuo says “Play safe - Stay healthy first 3 levels -> When we get level 3 we can look for trades but you gotta be very careful with his E (nade). If he hits that you just lose the trade -> When you have Q3 you can poke down his towers and use W to absord any incoming damage -> Once E is dodged and you are fairly close to him you can run him down, especially the more items you get -> Can run him down as well with R if you have enough damage to follow up with your R. Then use Q3 or E to dodge his nade and kill him”
JORGE OMAGO 74 says “💀💀💀💀 he's a genius and you're a psyco with a candle pole. Wait the lane walk far away from where he installed his machines. Then E earlier to fall stunning him. SPLIT DON'T TEAMFIGHT AGAINST THIS MAN.”
Potent213 says “Recommend: PTA or Grasp
This matchup is unplayable, you can only kill them level 1 if you all in and ignore turret damage, you can also Q + AA turrets destroying them in early.
Even level 1 with turrets he completely melts you, although you can soak damage and destroy them, they have such low cost for him that it is possibly not even worth it.
He has too much damage and poke that it makes it not survivable, even under turret he places his turrets on the limit of turret range and pokes you down so hard you cannot farm mages.
Go Dshield + Second Wind to somehow survive.
Even if you parry his E you don't guarantee a kill as he can dodge it so easily with turret movespeed and even then he can just DPS you to death, despite the stun.
The main problem is that he can run away while damaging you, so you cannot get an easy vital proc as he just keeps kiting you.
If he uses E poorly, you can look to all in while trying to parry his W and try to kill him, still very hard, but possibly manageable.
Beg for jungler ganks and pray that you have a jungler that can gank Heimer otherwise just dodge it. DOOMED MATCHUP, WORST FIORA MATCHUP.
Build hexdrinker for a bit of survivability.”
Scallywag says “Annoying matchup for all melee champions. A bit easier for Gangplank since he has his q and barrels.
Hard to kill him solo since he will zone you with his turrets.
He should not be able to kill you if you don't greed for farm, but one misstep may cost your life.”
Trundledaddy says “I personally would dodge, lanes almost unplayable, only way you win is if heimer misplays a lot and/or gets an aneurism, and you get a 2 level lead and can just perma run him down, mercs rush is good here”
Kurose0027 says “This matchup is unplayable, dodge it. Flash after parrying if you didn't parry his stun or else you will get one shotted in the all in.”
SilverAvalanche says “Bully: You turtle and then all in him level 6, you just ult onto him and E him then shroud to dodge his stuff and then Q him down until you can execute him. if he get crown then you are in big trouble so it is important that you smash him early. ”
ShacoMagicTrick says “This is the most boring lane i have ever seen but still he outpokes you. In most cases you cannot kill him and he cannot kill you. Just wait for your jungler. ”
Federals1 says “He is extremely difficult to deal with. At 6 he can match your burst, so if you jump in and he is ready with his big turret, you are doomed. You will explode instantly from his 3 turrets, his big turret, and the grenade stun. You need to bait out his ultimate before an actual all in, like charging at him, and once he drops his ultimate, back off and wait for your q to come back up again. After that it doesn't matter if he has the small turrets. Q max is needed.
Flash+Ignite are the preffered summoner spell choices. Doran's ring works better into him. Focus on building speed first, like Aether Wisp or tier 2 boots. Third rune page should be used.”
ProbablyPlatform says “I don’t ban him because looking at his icon give me PTSD so I just uninstall whenever I see him. Same as Fiora, I just don’t wanna see him and assume he is a big threat because he probably is”
Nekoparry says “///////////////////////////ENGLISH//////////////////////////
This matchup is autododge, you either have a duo jgl that perma ganks you or you're fucked. If you decide to play It, take Dshield + Second wind and rush Hexdrinker. Try to parry his E and if you hit him you can try to all in, but he just counters you in all ways, pokes harder than you, with his MS he kites and dodges your W, and even if you stun him he will still dmg you with his turrets.”
alexionut05 says “Very difficult laning phase. His turrets will absolutely melt you if you misplay. You must exploit any mispositioning of his. When you all-in, try to push him out of his turrets, either with E or a short (not tap) R.”
MHLoppy says “His high regen is a pain in the ass, since it makes it much harder to poke him out than is typical in ranged matchups. Turrets and grenade also make it riskier than usual to all-in. Just remember that despite his regen and damage, he is actually incredibly squishy if he hasn't built durability - if you can get onto him then he'll only take a couple of seconds to kill if you have ult on.”
Kocykek says “Don't try to come closer to him. He will push so your jungler can come and you can punish him. Go for Magic Resists or some Damage to one shot him.”
Helzky says “Depends on how hard he's pressuring you. But if we assume they know their champion, you have to play safe here. There's no realistic outcome where you solo kill him without help when he has knowledge of his champion. Prowlers with Maiden and you should be able to kill him.”
OliveeGarden says “take fleet, max W and first buy tier 2 boots. donger is really only good in lane phase, dont give him an advantage and play for team fights.”
Anoying bro5 says “This matchup isn't too hard, but it can be annoying if you don't know how to approach the fight. Whenever possible, try to take out his turrets. Early on in the game, they are on a fairly long cooldown so you can kill them pretty fast if the Heim isn't good. If the Heim is playing very defensive, just look to take extended trades, as if you land your E it is hard for him to escape. If he ever uses his stun aggressively and misses, uses this time to engage on to him. If he is holding it, just try to look for the animation to riposte the stun. If he has ult, he most likely will use it to enhance his turret, if that's the case, just bait out his ult and then disengage until the ult is gone, then reengage afterward.”
Your Desired Username says “Hard match-up. You can't really do much pre-6 besides from staying under turret and getting every minion possible, and Mordekaiser kinda sucks at farming under turret. Rushing Spectre's Cowl is actually viable here, because of his insane poke. Your ult removes his turrets, but in Brazil you have to hit everything to be able to kill him because he will stun you with his grenade. Additionally you will probably start the fight with about 1/2 of you HP thanks to his poke. Even if you manage to kill him, he will still have prio again until your ult comes back up, unless you are like 4 kills ahead at this point. He's a decent ult target later on, but note that he will probably have Zhonya's at that point.”
BreadedBreadCrum says “Heim is just annoying. Build Force of Nature at least some point in the game. Run the Aery runes to poke him and his towers out. Frostfire to counter his turret MS.”
Black Demon Ezel says “Heimerdinger's turrets can be a nuisance but coupled with your walkers which the turrets don't target it's side monster vs. side monster and honestly I don't know who'll win since I haven't done this matchup yet. Caution is key.”
AlexFL7000 says “Heimerdinger is an extremely annoying matchup. You can't really do much against his turrets, and you will always be pushed into due to his turrets. Recommended Items: Banshee's Veil, Mercury's Treads”
GastlyLoL says “This matchup is generally going to leave you under your turret the entire time. Try to get your tiamat and farm up as much as possible, then it will be possible to engage on him after level 6 and your first back, especially if you can bait out his stun. Be careful when ganking him, because he can often turn around and kill you or your jungler, or both. Tank the turret during ganks with your ult, and once you get a small lead on him, you should be able to kill him. If he burns grenade, he has no way of stopping you from killing him. Try to make him burn it.”
LunaticDancer says “Pain. I Am Bullied runes, D Shield. You'll most likely spend the first 6 levels farming under the turret. After you get ult, his turrets get relatively easy to manage.”
Captain Bane says “excuse me, never think this is going to happen anytime soon, so while im at it im taking some physics notes here.
QUESTION: what would happen to the pressure and temperature of the air molecules when you create a closed environment and expand its volume?
ANSWER:
Since volume is reversely proportional to the pressure of the air molecules, expanding the volume will decrease the pressure, and since pressure is the distance of the molecules between one and another, there will be an increase in molecular work, which is defined as force times distance, and that work is equal to the inner energy, which translates to kinetic energy or simply said temperature. Therefore the expansion of the volume will decrease the pressure and in addition decrease the temperature in the given situation.
Oh yeah and you win against heimerdinger by argumenting: 1+1= 3”
N0kk__ says “Player based. Heim is squishy and can be easily destroyed, but his turrets deal massive dmg. Freezing lane is the best thing to do. You will fall back with CS ,but no a huge minus. Ask for ganks and buy MR.”
Black Demon Ezel says “Heimerdinger is lethal in his own right because of his being a ranged top laner and his turrets. Combine that with the fact that his turrets never go away except for inside your ult, you are pretty much gunned down before you have a chance of proccing passive on him”
ToothlessKnight says “You have very little kill pressure vs a good Hemier as they know how to kite around turrets and use their stun to counter you. Max Q in this lane, poke best you can and pray your jungler can help. You outscale in the sidelane but you have little kill pressure at all stages 1v1. ”
_WhiteSnow_ says “Annoying, but not a particularly strong threat. Take fleet footwork and second wind + dorans and kill his turrets while healing his damage in short trades until he's out of q charges. You can then look to all in. Always keep stacks up for his w when killing his turrets so you don't take a bad hit.”
SloppyWalrusX says “His turrets block your E, he pushes every wave fast so u have to farm under turret. its very hard to poke him down due to his movement speed around his turrets.
You can somewhat win this matchup by rushing merc treads and stacking mr. but thats not very optimal”
Stinkee says “Only problem with Heimerdinger is the fact that he'll shove lanes to your tower nonstop. You need a mana item (Abyssal Mask) to keep up with him and shove your waves. You can actually throw his turrets with your E, allowing you to reposition them to better manage your waves. You can even throw his turrets towards your tower so your tower fires at it. He will not be much of a threat at all unless his jungler comes.”
Sovereign Kitten says “You can (Q) his turrets and kill them with 2 (AA), so your objective is to focus on this and avoid using abilities, if you prefer to not max (Q). However, if you do max (Q) you can kill his turrets in one (Q) so long as you have the AP early game, which allows allowing you to press your advantage of shoving him back and not setting up a perma shove into your tower. Keep on your toes scout! You need to be vigilant and keep avoiding all of his skill shots. Once his towers are down for a tiny second you can get in and poke him a little or continue to simply take his turrets down until he's out of mana.”
BoilTheOil says “You can cheese him level 1 by sitting in the third bush top lane and running at him once the minions come. You probably can't kill him in lane and he pokes you out. If their jungler or mid laner is also AP rush Merc treads against him. If your jungler ganks him you can probably kill him just by running into him and using E, just watch out for his insane burst. If they don't have any frontline for you to ult he outscales you. ”
Phrxshn says “Consider being a full-time Proxy Singed because you will not out trade him. If you cannot push or set-up proxy consider skipping a wave just to proxy. Try to kill Heimerdinger if you chose to lane against him. Dodging his skillshots will determine if you can trade or not. (Recommended Items: Force of Nature or Abyssal Mask for laning; Rylai's Scepter, Mercury's Treads) (Sustained 1v1 Trades: Heimerdinger, Singed without turrets) (Outscaling Edge: Even)”
The_Unf0rgiv3n says “Avoid fighting him while he has 2-3 turretns around him. Blocking his stun doesnt mean winning the trade because his turrets deal A LOT of dmg early game. At level 6, dont fight him if he spawns the big turret! Wait for it to expire and go back in for the kill.
Always make sure to eliminate his turrets first before you trade him!”
LiL Bunnie FuFuu says “His turrets block your hooks and Thresh's immobility and short range makes it difficult to avoid his stun. You also lack the damage to efficiently clear his turrets although you can pull them under turret with Q. Unplayable if he's good.”
Veng Shotz says “Rush mercs+ cowl/hexdrinker and pray you have enough damage to kill him before you die.
If you dont you wont be able to play the lane.
If you do you still wont be able to farm but you can try to kill him on repeat. Farm after he dies when turrets shut down, its all you'll get before he comes back and sets up turrets again. ”
quinn adc says “Heimerdinger turret range is 350, while your auto attack range is 525, so you can freely hit his turrets from afar.
His turrets requires 2 AAs to kill, OR 1 Q + 1 AA to kill them.
If you blind a turret, the turret is disabled for 1.5 seconds INCLUDING his ulted tower.
In lane, Heimerdinger wants to stack his towers and shove you in.
Ideally you DON'T want to leash if possible so that you can come to lane first.
Hard shove him early so whenever he puts down a tower, you can kill it with ease.
Without lane control, you will back Heim your BISH. Stand behind minions in lane because Heim W is easy to hit, the beams, and if he hits you with them, his towers get 20% increased range.
Now, the most important thing, DODGE HEIMERDINGER E STUN AT ALL COSTS! His E is 970 range, which means he can land it from far away.
To counter this, whenever Heim Es you, either vault a minion OR Heimerdinger himself, and by doing so, your vault will juke & dodge his E stun, which is important because if he lands his E on you, he can follow up with his W AND all turrets within 1000 range will gain 100% beam charge.
If his E is down, it is a 12 second CD, so you can retaliate with a combo and you will win.
Even if he has a few turrets up, I like to hard combo him and you will deal more damage, even if he has some turrets up.
Even better, if you let him W after he Es and both abilities don't hit you, now you HARD win the engage.
Post 6 be mindful of his R.
Ulted Turret only has 450 range and Heim usually uses it defensively if you try to all in him, so if he uses it, save blind for it to disable it.
His empowered W has immense range and damage, so if you are low, play far back because he can snipe you with it.
Finally, ulted grenade can bounce, so be careful not to be hit by it.
With this lane, DO NOT ROAM because heim can push so fast and take so many plates.
You can resort to a farm lane if you need to, but I find that Heim is easy to beat when you play around juking his E stun and punishing him when this ability is down :) Just remember, GET LANE PRIO and you will find the matchup to be easier than expected :D”
At_Tar_Ras says “auto-Q all his turrets ASAP as they're being put down and he UNIRONICALLY has zero threat against you. this is an easy matchup and when you're fed his turrets simply mean more mobility for your dash reset.”
SunFalk says “He can play safe. He has a stun. He has a lot of damage. He has a good wave clear. - Heimerdinger is very annoying, play safe under tower and CS their, let him push with his cannons and dodge his stun, wait this way for a gank to kill the Heimer. Possitive point about laning against Heimer is that you'll almost never get ganked.”
Dream Orbit says “More info on the matchups section. Remember this is only an estimated threat, you can always win any matchup if you're good enough (or if they're bad enough).”
slogdog says “Ranged annoying rat champ. Go doran's shield and try poking with E and ghouls. Build MR. build vamp scepter if you need to live. Outscale him. Dodge his E.”
Xerath gaming says “Never fought against this but in my opinion it should be free kill when you press R since all his turrets wont be in the realm of death. Till then try to farm and dodge his W + E”
Raen says “Annyoing to play against, try to destory his mini turrets regulary and jump in when he uses his E. Early doran shield will be helpful vs his poke and Sheen for kill potential. Use E for his turret dmg. ”
Justkb says “More annoying than effective! Make sure that you take Doran’s Shield and that you can get Q's off against him tower at level 2! Once you get Merc Treads you can safely Q his towers while trying to dodge his stun. If you can take out 2 towers without his response, make sure you try to run him down and finish him off. If you fall behind look to roam and play the rest of the Map more effectively as he can’t match your roam timers once he has placed towers and is lacking mana. ”
P1Legend says “Stack ap early, every ap component you can find. this match becomes the easiest thing in the world when you can just double W his turrets and have all his damage potential disappear, while also hitting him for 60% of his hp. keep clearing his turrets this way once you stack enough Ap and the matchup is very easy”
LoLReal says “Enjoy farming under turret because that's all you'll be able to do in this lane. Ungankable champion too, obnoxious to play against. Build early cowl and focus on farming well for mid-game.”
Phrxshn says “Consider roaming across the map.Try to kill Heimerdinger if you chose to lane against him. Dodging his skillshots will determine if you can trade or not. (Recommended Items: Force of Nature for laning; Spirit Visage, Mercury's Treads) (Sustained 1v1 Trades: Heimerdinger, Trundle without turrets) (Outscaling Edge: Trundle)
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A_Drunk_Carry says “I would actually go Doran's Ring in this matchup and put 3 early points into E. Bait the heimer into putting up turrets. You'll inherently get pushed here, but at least you'll be able to stack. You are so much more useful in teamfights and late game too.”
Phrxshn says “Consider roaming across the map. Try to kill Heimerdinger if you chose to lane against him. Dodging his skillshots will determine if you can trade or not. (Recommended Items: Abyssal Mask, Mercury's Treads) (Sustained 1v1 Trades: Heimerdinger) (Outscaling Edge: Malphite)”
Phrxshn says “Consider roaming across the map.Try to kill Heimerdinger if you chose to lane against him. Dodging his skillshots will determine if you can trade or not. (Recommended Items: Force of Nature for laning; Spirit Visage, Mercury's Treads) (Sustained 1v1 Trades: Heimerdinger, Warwick without turrets) (Outscaling Edge: Warwick)”
Phrxshn says “Consider roaming across the map.Try to kill Heimerdinger if you chose to lane against him. Dodging his skillshots will determine if you can trade or not. (Recommended Items: Force of Nature for laning; Spirit Visage, Mercury's Treads) (Sustained 1v1 Trades: Heimerdinger, Sett without turrets) (Outscaling Edge: Even)
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OTP Toxin says “Kill his turrets and dodge his obvious E throws when you are going to hit his turrets, you will kill easily. Throw your mushrooms on his turrets, R turrets or waves, he will always run into them.”
SilverAvalanche says “Free farm lane, I recommend sprit visage first item or maw if you are really confident.
just ult when he ults if you decide to go in and save your E to run out of the turrets.
also be aware he goes stop watch so if he does not activate it instantly when you ult, just use your ult as soon as possible. Stop watch: 2.5s, your ult: 3.15s. else you won't hit him with the ult damage or get the heal”
Drake6401 says “Only difficult if your jungler never ever ganks. If you have a jungler with brain cells, you'll be okay. A very annoying laner no matter where he goes. If he's feeling extra petty, he'll go top. This is just a farming lane for the most part as he will run from every fight. If he tries to poke with his stun grenade then you have an opening to engage. Make it a very very short fight. PTA rune is recommended and use bushes as a get out method to disengage his turrets. He's terrible at lane control and inevitably overextends which makes him vulnerable to ganks. ”
Rhoku says “TL;DR - DIFFICULT MATCHUP. DON’T TAKE TOO MUCH POKE. START DSHIELD +SECOND WIND INTO MERC BOOTS IF YOU HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN FIGHTING BACK. IF YOU HAVE BEEN GETTING OBLITERATED, GO FOR NEGATRON CLOAK AND FARM UP. YOU OUT SCALE HIM IN 1V1. IF HE GETS COCKY AND STEPS TOO FAR UP, PULL HIM IN AND CHASE HIM DOWN WITH GHOST. ASK FOR JUNGLE HELP IF POSSIBLE. CONQUEROR WORKS SINCE WERE BUILDING DEFENSIVELY. FORCE FIGHTS WHEN HE DOESN’T HAVE TURRETS SET UP/IS NOT NEAR HIS TURRETS. FREE KILL WITH STRIDEBREAKER.
A Heimer lane is poke city. Take EVERY anti poke thing at your disposal. His rockets do so much damage if he lands all of them that you might need to start triple dshield in order to have enough health to actually survive in this lane. On the bright side, he will almost ALWAYS be pushed up so he is very gankable. Not to mention how if he is overconfident and steps too far up, you can run him down. He is low hp so you can kill him very quickly. The trick is not dying after. Even if he isn’t there to attack you, his turrets will be. Unflinching in addition to Second Wind is great. I’d recommend packing tenacity and Rushing Merc boots if you think you have kill pressure on him. If he completely destroys you, just give up and build Negatron Cloak. On the bright side, you outscale him in the 1v1 as you tend to be very tanky so as long as you dont die and get whatever farm you can get, you will get to a point where he is free food for you. Feel free to kill his turrets using your Q or W. But later on, they become so tanky that the damage you take while doing so is not even worth killing the turret, especially since Heimer will just put another one down.”
RivalOCE says “Try to focus on hitting his towers. If you can dodge his stun you should win trades and skirmishes. At level 6, try to juggle your Q's then all in when he mis-spaces. You win the scale too, just try to survive lane.”
The Rock Titan says “"[Comet, Corrupting Potion, Q > W] - You can try to kill him as best as you can after 6.
- Avoid/dodge his stun combo, and try to get a few Qs on him without taking too much of his turret damage.
- All in him if he's at around 70% or less health and when you have some MR items. Last thing you want to do is happen is die when you you all.
- People who play Heimer are usually very confident in their abilities. Becareful!
- A good jungler will gank your lane"”
Amvill says “He is the ideal in-lane counter to Singed. He has the cc to lock you down and the turrets can completely push you away from your farm. You are not a real gamer if you play Heimerdinger. >:(”
Rhoku says “This matchup is going to be HELL. For the first 5 levels, you just need to sit back and make sure not to take damage. Trust me when I tell you that 1 stun grenade, regardless whether he lands the slow or the stun, will lead to you getting chunked from full to half HP INSTANTLY. If you can land a pull, your combo will do a lot of damage to him, as he is innately a squishy champion but trying to do so will leave you vulnerable. Just make sure you SURVIVE until level 6. Give up CS, conserve HP and try to passively exist in your lane. On the bright side, your ultimate CHANGES the entire dynamic. His turrets and etc won't be around to help him in the Death Realm. So look to Ult him either AS he throws out his stun grenade, OR as he puts down his super turret with his ultimate. This way, you will cancel one of his major abilities which will allow you to just walk up and murder him with little resistance.”
YasTilt says “You can dash on his Turrets so abuse of this. he is really Squichy and his R Enhanced Abilities can be blocked with your Wall. Laning Phase will be annoying because of his Poke. Try to pick fights when he don't have his Stun.”
FeedLaneGetCaryd says “(Second Wind+Magic Resist+DShield) Try your best to farm and scale. You can ask your jungler for a gank. Heimer will perma push because of his turrets. Buy MR. E+Flashing when your R is up and you are full HP usually means a kill.”
PK Noob says “You can avoid his poke, but when you look to all-in him your still gonna close enough to be shot by his turrets and get stunned. Heimerdinger is extremely squishy, so wait for the perfect opportunity to one-shot him.”
lulw says “Cancer champion but you can windwall basically anything he does. Dash to him windwall stun and then just kill him because of his squishiness. ”
Psychopathic Top says “This is a matchup where the Heimerdinger determines the difficulty of the lane. Bad Heimers drop turrets for no reason and gives you free stacks (while auto shoving the wave to your tower). Good Heimers would simply shove you out of lane and force early backs which is the biggest problem, as you lose econ in losing way too much cs and stacks. The best way to play this matchup is to survive as long as possible before backing, and rushing lucidity boots to juke his stun. HE WILL BE UP LEVELS AND GOLD through cs and plates there's nothing to do about that, just remember you are better at teamfighting so don't sweat if his up a lot of gold early, do NOT die no matter what. Look for flanks in mid game and try to avoid a head on fight vs Heimer's team.”
DippyDan says “Perma-pusher, impossible to get priority in lane, and has high DPS poke. Will be sitting under turret pretty much the entire game.
TIPS: [1] Lv. 1-3 your Q+AA kills the turret, but eventually won't. Make use of this. [2] Pick up Lifesteal early to sustain in the lane.
[3] Can easily kill with R and Parry.”
Hecki says “If you know that the enemy Heimerdinger will be toplane you should take Magic Resist in your runes and Second Wind. Go with Dorans Shield to maximize your health regen since he will most definetly try to poke you down. Don't try to fight him in the midst of his turrets. If you are good at side stepping try after getting level 6 to bait out his E by you popping R and running towards him. Unless the Heimerdinger is a psychopath his defense mechanism should make him press E on you and so predict that and sidestep it. Without his E his only chance to survive is to burst you down with his W and turrets, which shouldn't be enough when your healthy.”
Yumi Project says “Fight him only with your ult and W up.
Try to farm under tower and wait for gank if you dont have your ult up. Remember to place well you shield.”
SunOak says “Annoying to deal with but after level 6 you can look for an all in with 4 ghouls because you will outdamage him dont forget to take MR defense runes instead of armor. Start Dorans shield to deal with his poke. If you run any resolve tree bring second wind.”
IAmStryker says “Starting Items:
-Dorans Shield + Second Wind
Build
-Anti-Burst
Lane:
We will just demolish your health bar if you step up to close. Try dodging as much as you can to stay as healthy as possible. You cant do anything unless your jungler comes around. It's still a bit easy, because Heimers just push the wave 24/7 like bots. Kinda free farm, but not really.
-Wits end rush.”
Alan234 says “Go Fleet Footwork to survive lane by auto attacking krug/gromp.
Dont waste too much time attacking the towers, but do attack them early game. The only time you have a realistic chance to kill them is lvl 1 turrets and MAYBe lvl 2 turrets. He can replenish them but its good to keep up pressure in lane. Its mostly a farm lane where it depends if he lands skillshots or if you dodge and q poke him down. Usually noone can kill anyone and you both just force each other to back and lose cs/platings. Heimer just wins by constantly pushing and the only way you win is by exploiting him when he is low on mana or needs a base, else there is little you can do.”
JaxIsAHobo says “The literal definition of anti-interaction, this little cheeky piece of **** is quite annoying to lane against. A good heimerdinger will be able to zone you out, and in good circumstances, even 1v2 vs you and your jungler if you misplay. Try to kill his turrets with your E up, and use your leap to avoid getting hit by his grenade. ”
Catlover765 says “He outranges you so you can't kill his turrets without losing half of the health bar at the very least. His damage is pretty high even if you managed to dodge his E”
MrShykun says “MATCHUP DIFFICILE NE PRENEZ PAS TROP DE POKE COMMENCER BOUCLIER DE DORAN ET SECOND SOUFFLE AVEC LES BOTTES DE MERCURES SI VOUS VOUS ETES FAIT DEMOLIR PRENEZ MANTEAU DE NEGATRON ET FARMER VOUS POURREZ L'OUTSCALE SI IL NE RESPECTE PAS LES DISTANCES UTILISER VOTRE E ET POURSUIVEZ LE AVEC LE GHOST DEMANDER DE L'AIDE AU JUNGLE SI POSSIBLE PRENEZ CONQUEROR ET FORCER LES FIGHTS SI IL NA PAS DE TOURELLES AVEC L'ESTROPIEUR HEIMER EST UN FREE KILL. Un heimerdinger en lane ne va faire que vous poke prenez des items pour résister au poke les rocket font beaucoup de dégâts si il les touche toutes le start triple collier rafraichissant est envisageable le coté positif est qu'il va probablement vous push H24 il est donc ENORMEMENT vulnérable au ganks surtout que si il s'approche trop vous pourrez tout simplement lui courir dessus je recommande de rush la ténacité et des mercures si il vous défonce prenez manteau de negatron . Point positif vous allez l'outscale en 1v1 puisque vous pourrez le tanker donc si vous ne mourrez pas et farmer il deviendra un free kill pour vous de plus il est assez facile de détruire ses tourelles avec le Q et le W.”
Vandenelis says “One of the most boring champions to play against. You can't win trades against him if he knows what he is doing. But he can't do damage unless you walk into the range of his turrets. So you should be able to just farm up early. he gets increased movement speed near his turrets, so if your jungle is ganking and you miss your cc then just fall back and stop the gank, since a good Heimerdinger could kill you both when you don't have cc”
DarkyTheReal says “Easy matchup, Heimerdinger is very weak this season, and you kill one turret with auto+Q, just go for all-ins against him, and you'll destroy him. At level 1 if you can try to cheese him on a bush or something.”
Rodos says “Heimer is known for his annoying turrets, that wont let you farm, or get close to him at all. Also you wont be able to land any E on him as he can get cover behind the minions and his little turrets. For this reason dont engage him for any reason at the very early game. At level 6 even tho his ult is very strong, remember that your ult deals huge damage and heals you enough. Anyways he wont be an easy enemy to deal with and there isnt much you can do. Just play safe, farm, and waith for your jungler to come and help you or try trading him at 6. But ofc buy mr before trading him.”
SKRELAX says “Take Dshield, play safe, and wait for outscale. Don't try to outtrade him, he can E Stun you, and it's easy outtrade or maybe a kill for him.”
Byku2506 says “This is terrible matchup for you, he can easily beat you at 1v1, just wait for jungler and try to catch him if he plays agressivly against you. Just wait for his mistake and build strong mr against this fucker.”
Fryx says “Pre 6 he will be super annoying so just take the farm you can get. Stay as healthy as possible! Once you are 6 just straight up ult him even full hp and use your full combo on him. After that try to run since he will use his ult. Once he is 30% hp he can not really stay in lane. Trust me it works every time. Sometimes you can even kill him like that.”
wff010 says “EXTREMELY cringe lane. I developed a very specific playstyle for this lane. I run exhaust, nimbus cloak and transcendence. Why? He can burst you down 100-0 as soon as he stuns you or poke you to death under his tower. So, whenever you have exhaust, run at him with everything you've got, exhaust him when he throws out his stun, and then kill him ASAP. This will likely be happening under your tower a lot since heim permapushes. So, ask for plenty of ganks.”
LoLReal says “Heimer is hard for us. Punishes us hard early game and isn't very easy to kill. Also difficult to gank. Build an early spectre's cowl in this lane and farm. Mordekaiser can be more useful in team fights so be patient. Heimer builds early zhonya's so he can also be tricky to kill inside of our R. Punish him before he finishes zhonya's post 6.”
SanLourdes says “Another poke machine. He will try and establish lane dominance early. This is perfect since you usually freeze your waves in front of tower anyway. Your Q can be used at a range to take out his turrets, and your E can launch them out of positioning. Once you get a stun on him, you can finish him off easily. Respect his burst, it is more powerful than you think.”
RainAndBow says “Can't win against this other yordle. Let his turrets station wherever he wants, just don't interfere. Try to take the turrets if you can, but if he is nearby it is not worth the risk. Allow his minions to shove into your tower and farm like that. Pray for jungler gank. ”
calbino says “Heimer's poke is irritating, but if you hit first Q, he's basically dead unless he zhonyas/stopwatches. However, prioritize dodging his stun with E rather than positioning your Q with it.”
RareParrot says “Do not let him push you to turret you will get poked down under turret via rockets if you have bush prio you can win by assassinating him because hes squishy.”
ForgottenProject says “This is not a lane this is just Torment. You'll be under your turret for the first 15 Minutes of the game making you Question why even bother with this Game?
[1]Take Teleport and Just Farm out the Lane, there's not much you can do here.
[2]Take Corrupting Pot in Lane and Pick up Mercs so you dont get overwhelmed by his damage.
[3]You can beat him if he doesn't have his turrets set-up or if you kill his turrets and still have Most of your Hp.
[4] Don't ask for ganks just focus on farming till the Laning Phase is over, you will out-scale Hard.”
SavagePridestalker says “Kinda weird matchup, you'll never be really able to kill him, since he'll just be pushing the lane against you permanently. I'd say DON'T play tank Rengar into him.”
Marwaii says “Dude, nerf Heimerdinger. Take shield and play safe till mega Gnar. Mega Gnar will kill him at lvl 6 and you can kill his turrets with your Qs.
Take Stride + Mercs.”
a1a7s45 says “Heimerdinger is extremely oppressive. Now people are playing him because Beryl played him at Worlds. If you need to ban him, do so. Otherwise, pray you have a team that scales hard in teamfights. You need to play around them if you want to make Heim pay.”
AlanVenator says “There is not much you can do against Heimerdinger. Try to avoid poke and stay healthy. When asking for ganks, try to clear his turrets and minions as they will do a lot of damage.”
SethPRG says “You win level 1, I'd try to bush cheese, but if he doesn't die you will have to play safe unless you can dodge everything and destroy his turrets quickly. Better to just let him push and wait for your JG or level 6 and Stridebraker. His missiles are relatively easy to dodge unless he aims the skill shot to be widespread. His turrets are annoying, but in all-ins, you can use that against him by stunning him into them. If he tries to throw a stun bomb at you use your ult to dodge the CC. Rush Mercury Treads into Stridebreaker, and then get Force of Nature second item, you will need the pasive. He won't be able to beat you after that till late game.”
DaSticks says “Very hard matchup if the heimer plays well. He can 1v2 you and your jungler if he has ult so ping your jungler away! You can kill his turrets with autos when safe to but he recharges them quickly so it's hard to get a good window to trade, just play defensively. When you want to all in him bait him into throwing E then flash on him.”
majororange77 says “Full info in Guide.
Great matchup. Just let him push and free farm under tower. If he gets too aggressive, let your jungle path bot and gank.”
Kaizin says “Take a few early points into your E so that you're able to farm and clear his cannons. He'll most likely keep you pushed into tower so just try to farm as best as you can and avoid walking up to the wave near his turrets as he deals a lot more damage than expected. Second wind, early boots and health are all very good into this matchup. At level 6 you can try to go for an all in, just make sure you've poke him down to at least 60% with your E. That way you can kill him in one rotation of abilities. If he flashes I'd take the flash, let your jungler know and don't be greedy.”
SirGRC says “Worth a Ban: No
If you can position your W well, then you should not be taking damage from all his turrets, or at least most of them, and your E makes it very easy to dodge his other abilities. He will most likely keep you pushed under your tower, ask for a gank or just play safe and cs as best as possible.”
Humitaxx says “Just try to freeze the wave and trade every now and then, whenever all of your abilities are up you can chase with Q and stun him with E, he can melt you but you can abuse his turret damage to get a charged W at him”
deathwalker7119 says “Another really hard matchup, if you see this guy in ranked you should probably just dodge or spam ping jungle help. You cannot fight him in his turrets as they fuck you, so always play back and wait for him to push past them. You need to parry his grenade + dash out of the missiles, or else you will get 1 shot. Again, his turrets will literally solo kill you as they give him movement speed and do incredible DPS, AVOID THEM AT ALL COSTS!!!!”
Darkduet says “Heimer is one of the most hated champions of mine, but thank god your passive makes it a lot easier to approach him. Be careful though, heimer is very tricky”
Womsky says “lane survival, doran's sheild, He is known as the ultimate lane bully who shoves u under your turret and forces u to stay there all laning phase while poking you, but as a tryndamere, u have so much sustain and u can destroy his turrets while out sustaining his mana pool, he has alot of skill shots, so dodging is important in this matchup, he will try to throw stuff at u when u go for his turrets, but u can dodge it and destroy them, he is nothing without his turrets, when the game starts u can also head to the lane right away to prevent him from setting up turrets, if u let him set up too much he can poke u out, dives and kills on him is easy if u take out all turrets and stay high hp high fury, his base states are nothing compared for you.”
RealIreliaCarriesU says “Can be troubling if he lands his combo on you but it is fairly easy to avoid everything he throws at you. Start with Q and look to build your passive/be aggressive early on. If you land your E at level 2 it is a guaranteed flash or kill from him depending on how hard you chunk him. You can be extremely aggressive against him just make sure to be aware of ganks. Post 6 it is crucial to avoid his combo as he can easily do 80%+ of your hp in a second or two if you get hit by his combo. Avoid his combo and you are golden in all ins.”
tibs2 says “Depression aids cancer bad match up. You just sit under tower and hope you flip the better team. Don't really have any useful tips for this match up other than don't try to trade with him ever.”
Ratakor says “Ranged, he hard push -> ez gank, his turrets hurt a lot, don't get poke and stay even in farm, you can kill him after first back by run on him and dodge his stun bomb”
JeanMichelBambi says “Even if he isn't common, he's a pain to deal with, he deals lots of poke damage, and can hide behind his turrets to block any hooks you might be trying to throw at him.”
AmericanNut says “Your shield blocks his E, W, and turrets. Save your shield for when he ults as that is when he bursts his hardest. Do not walk into turret nest for any reason.”
Noodles912 says “Come on. Its Heimer. Spam pots and q lane and never engage. Keep your jungler away from your lane. You can freeze easily with how much damage his turrets do. Stay healthy, and recall if you are low. W can stop his stunning bomb and rocket barrage.”
PiscesPomf says “HARD LANE
Heimerdinger will easily poke you and if you go in, his nest of turrets will blow you up. Just stay safe, disguise yourself as a farmer, and wait until your jungle come to help you or wait until you can move out of your lane.”
Oskarl3 says “tough to fight early because he pushes you in non stop, but you can use your e to reposition his towers. goredrinker is good here to help you survive his prolonged damage”
Draconic56 says “This matchup is going to be hell for you. For the first 5 levels, you just need to sit back and make sure not to take damage. If you can land a pull, your combo will do a lot of damage to him, as he is innately a squishy champion but trying to do so will leave you vulnerable. Just make sure you survive until level 6. Give up CS, conserve HP, and try to passively exist in your lane. On the bright side, your ultimate changes the entire dynamic. His turrets and etc won't be around to help him in the Death Realm. So look to Ult him either AS he throws out his stun grenade, or as he puts down his super turret with his ultimate. This way, you will cancel one of his major abilities which will allow you to just walk up and murder him with little resistance.”
SanLourdes says “I hate this matchup more than anything in the world. He is a poke machine with tons of CC and burst potential. Stay out of his way pre-level 6. Freeze the wave in front of your tower and let him push. Safely CS and when you have your ultimate, use Ghost, E , ult him and make him pay for all the pain he has caused. His turrets won't be there in your Death Realm to save his mustache. Other than that, play it safe and do not feed him. Respect his burst potential. Build Doran's Shield. Keep the rest of your normal build and buy Sorcerer's Shoes.”
negoZoma69 says “AP Neeko can't do much against heimer in lane, he will just get free movespeed from his passive and kite you. Just try your best to kill his turrets and bait his abilities to make him run out of mana. AD Neeko on other hand has a small window to kill him if you dodge his E.”
SeptikYT says “Really annoying to lane against to the point it's near impossible to trade with him. To also mention he outscales you by a lot, so just dodge or ban this guy.”
SanLourdes says “Heimerdinger will out-trade you in every way possible. Play defensive and ask your jungler for ganks. Take down his turrets whenever you can as it will be near impossible to survive in places where he has many of them. Don't take too much poke! He has great burst potential when you least expect it and his playstyle will soon have you tilted if you aren't careful. Don't take Doran's Blade into this matchup unless you want to lose the lane. Freeze the minion wave just before your tower range and farm safely. Allow him to play aggressive and when he overcommits punish him for it. Heimerdinger has everything he needs to counter you; poke, a stun to stop your initiations, high burst damage, decent health and range. I would say to definitely ban him, but his play rate is so low that its not practical. If you are matched up against a Heimerdinger its best to dodge. A five minute wait is better than the worst 15 minute forfeit game in your life.”
nichovsky says “what can i say exept its heimer. if you engage with ult he can stun you and ult then W or Q he can just run if he gets you stuned as well”
TwistedDemon says “You should beat him. Kill his turrets and don't let yourself be hit by his stun. Ask for ganks since he is very vulnerable, and easy to kill in a 2v1. After 6 it becomes a bit harder, just make him to waste his ult and you'll be fine.”
Runtley says “Heimerdinger is just annoying. You want to make sure you hit his turrets twice then the poison will take care of the rest. You can also throw your shrooms on your turrets if they are close enough to each other and get them all. I recommend you use aery so you can get a bunch of poke/ on hit damage.”
Rime101 says “Ignite + electrocute + dorans shield
Max Q
Look to safe farm until 6 where you have strong all-in potential
Kill turrets with Q if possible to attack his mana pool, also free gold
Ignite can be good for stronger all-in”
Erenando says “Uninstall.
No seriously you'll have a very hard time at stacking since he can kill you under your own tower. You must manage to survive the lane until you got spirit visage, mercury's and of course sheen to fight him of, but until then you're basically fucked without your jungler.”
GrGamingTeo says “All you need to do against Heimerdinger is dodge his grenade and don't stand near him if your lane looks like a military base. You can rush Mercury's Treads if it makes sence for the enemy team or Hexdrinker.”
Gordusko says “Heimerdinger is a true lane bully. Laning against this fella is just a pain. You gotta keep destroying his turrets and try to stay healthy. Try to give him some damage if possible with your Q+E combo and wait for him to make mistake. And pray :) ”
LunaticDancer says “I might be an idiot, but this guy always absolutely beats me in top lane (at least last season). You need MR. You need to never get hit by his stun grenade. You need to destroy his turrets immediately before he can create a formation with them. Be careful of him setting up his ult turret and then using Zhonya's.”
SpyDaFX says “try to kill at level 2/3. dont trade with him when his machines are nearby, ask for ganks, a skill matchup (he needs to land his stuff, if he doesn't it's a free lane for you after level 2/3 if you get a lead especially). go press the attack.”
tasie456s says “Turrets are annoying, but if he groups them up too much, you can combo them all together. He helps you to waveclear, so look to constantly shove and roam with your jungler. ”
Ravenborne says “Mandatory to get 3 Rejuv Bead as Start. Simply can not touch him. If he gets close to Tower however you can run him down with Ghost because your Damage is far greater than his. Just be sure to not let his Stun Grenade hit you at his turrets because he will then be able to finish you off.”
mobsterplatypus says “The poke is very annoying here, but once you reach level 6, go all in, wait for him to use his ultimate (usually on the turret) then use yours. His turrets can follow him to the realm of death, and if he already used his stun its pretty much over for him. Run riftmaker to help with the poke.”
Kil4fun says “Play passive until you get 6. He hurts a lot but if you don't tank abilities you can just sit behind minions and wait out the rocket attacks. Besides that his turrets have more range/same range until level 16 where you can take them for free.”
Devilofthewest says “A good heimer dinger will wreck your shit . There are too many instances where you will need your E and it is very easy for them to force you to use it. Most likely you will get stuck trying to farm with your long range Q because if he stuns you when you try to last hit CS then his turrets will kill you ... and once he hits lvl 6 jumping on him will be suicide unless you have your E up and ready (this is a champ where EMPOWERED E actually is very useful so that you can block his whole ult or enough of it to get away ) This all being said IF you can burst him dead with your combo + ignite you can win but it is still HIGH risk . The only real thing you can do is take advantage of his lack of escapes , let him push up , try to get him to burn his ult and ping your jungler for assistence (also one final note for anyone unaware , his ult tower stays up if he dies , so if you burst him there is a high chance his ult will still kill you )”
ModelitoTime says “Although Heimer top is not too common it is still a thing. Take MR runes and take a Doran's Shield with you. Heimer is a lane bully and can push lanes really fast with his turrets. Although they look small they make this matchup dangerous. Never try to hit Heimer with your W unless you have already landed your Q or a E on him. I say this because your W will always try to hit his turrets rather than him because they are closer to you. I recommend trying to land a Q from far range then just E+Flash into him, he is really squishy so as soon as you land a E on him 9 times out of 10 he is dead. That is your best bet at securing a kill in this matchup. If you see that she rushes Zhonyas that will make this matchup really tough because he will just Zhonya and let his turrets do the work for him. If your E is up again time it right so that you can hit him with it as soon as his hourlglass is over. Other than that you scale over Heimer extremely. Righteous Glory later in the game could also help if he is being obnoxious.”
WookieChewbacca says “Proxy when able. You can dive Heimerdinger only if you have a vast speed advantage at level 6. If the lane is pushed, you can fling him towards the enemy side of the map, away from his turrets.”
xxskipskipxx says “Farm Lane ~
Dodge his Abilities and dont force trades!
if he misses his Stun (E) you can look in to trade him, BUT make sure you dont stand in the range of ALL 3 Turrets of Heimer!!
Let him push and ask for Jungle help”
RedNBlue says “Easy kill, just make sure to shoot his turrets and dodge his stun with your e and double shot him. Hes too short range to fight you without his turrets.”
EU_Toxicity says “Very rough for most immoblie melees including Darius. I'd buy 3x Rejuv Beads as you can keep one and buy adaptive helm later. You do have a chance to all-in him before 6 by dodging/flashing his grenade and running him down with ghost . If the grenade hit you just back off as he will surely outdamage you.”
iZeal says “Another difficult matchup as Heimer will permapush you into tower trying to harass you while you will have problems farming and destroying his turrets. If he catches you with a stun, you die after level 6. Try to kill his turrets while dodging his E and W before going in or bait out his ultimate for a gank so he can't 2v1 you and your jungler.
RejuBeads>DShield, Merc Treads, Specter's Cowl or Hexdrinker if struggling”
byThiagus says “UNA LINEA INFERNAL, Recomiendo segunda pagina de runas, escudo de doran y ghost. Farmear Hasta un gank de tu jungler O que utilize mal su e SINO NO PODES ENTRARLE.”
StrikeX114 says “Heimerdinger's turrets can often be one- or two-tapped by most champions. Yuumi is not in said majority. Build a Stinger early to destroy his turrets faster, because he can otherwise keep you at a distance for the entire game.”
Saarlichenbog says “Heimerdinger loves to bait you into his turret setup which is his primary form of DPS. There are several phases to the lane to ensure he doesn't take over which can be done pretty easily if managed correctly. Removing his turrets upon placement is crucial as he has a small delay between placing each new turret this being your time to full combo him. Once he hits level 6, there's always the threat of him double-casting which is why at this point you should start playing more defensively for items. Finally, when he hits Zhonyas it becomes incredibly dangerous to try and solo kill him but he will more often then not be pinned to one lane which means you can then translate your lead into more map impact.”
hiugnadie says “He is a complete lane bully, luckily he doesn't top very much. If you do go against him, though, the rule is you win fights outside of turret range, he wins them inside. try to freeze early and just farm, you outscale him. also if your jungler ganks early and you kill him, then try to shove as hard as you can and kill all of his turrets, and then you have a chance of winning lane against him.”
Captain Dantems says “Tome cuidado com as torrezinhas dele, pokea ele com seu Q e barril, uma hora da para matar ele. Grasp. Dá para usar poção corrupta, anel de Doran e Cristal de safira com 3 poções.”
ItsPaulygon says “Don't even try to trade with him. He can just stun you and let his turrets do all the work for him. Play safe, take Doran's shield and take all the cs you can. Only engage if you have your jungler with you. But be careful, as he can still deal with both of you.”
TheMightyNinja says “He will push you constantly wich makes him vulnerable to ganks.
Your W can block his turrets shots.
Try to stay healthy, dodge his skills and farm as much as you can safely, you become more impacful than him later in the game with your ultimate. I would recommend the Fleet Footwork build in this matchup”
MrGasYourGirl says “He's the 11/10. You gotta deep proxy behind the second tower and prepare to get blasted in the ass if he catches you. He's a very naughty yordle.”
Frostyfps says “Can be troubling if he lands his combo on you but it is fairly easy to avoid everything he throws at you. Start with Q and look to build your passive/be aggressive early on. If you land your E at level 2 it is a guaranteed flash or kill from him depending on how hard you chunk him. You can be extremely aggressive against him just make sure to be aware of ganks. Post 6 it is crucial to avoid his combo as he can easily do 80%+ of your hp in a second or two if you get hit by his combo. Avoid his combo and you are golden in all ins.
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TangoVallhala says “try killing him early on when he is no escape or damage, later on wait for 6, watch out for his E Cooldown. Also go hex drinker rush.”
qasddsa says “Be careful of his rockets and stun grenade. He'll be constantly pushing the wave, so ask your jungler for a gank. Try your best to not fight in his turrets, as their damage starts to ramp up as you get closer to level 6. In teamfights, do not fight in his cannons; make sure to clear them. You do not want to get caught by his stun grenade.”
ERNESTSAURUS says “FLEET FOOTWORK / SPELLBOOK SETUP - DORANS SHIELD / 3 REJUVENATION BEADS + POT =
Heimer is a really inmobile champion but he can use that to his advantages with his torrets. In this lane he will always permapush since his torrets will automatically autoattack you, but you have to play it safe enough to not get poked, once the wave starts pushing back you can kill the torrets with your minion wave and then look to waste his mana like that. Fleet in this lane is really good but if you feel confident you can try to go for Spellbook. if he can't get an advantage in this lane, later on you will beat him 1v1. Look to setup a splitpush situation where he has to match you and look to all in him when he hasn't placed his torrets yet, the torrets are his main source of damage, without them he is super squishy. Remember you can stack his torrets with Q.”
SubHuman Filth says “Go for aery and 3 points in q from early game.
Shroom his turrets. and only poke with q.
Dont get hit by his E, then you will die very quickly.”
Grayified says “Fleet Footwork Runes and Build. Ignite + Flash. Dorans shield start. Head to lane at the very start of the game and make sure heimer doesnt set up his turrets in lane, and also make sure he doesnt cheese your jungle buff level 1 either. Merc treads can help in this matchup or you can take tenacity on your runes If you are able to consistently take out heimer's turrets in the early game and not allow him to have 3 up at one time you can outsustain heimer's auto's and get very good early pressure on him. If you let him get his turrets down then he will be able to pressure you and shove you under turret and deny you CS. Post 6 you can look for allins on heimer however you need full fury and close to full hp to look for it, also you need to take out heimer's turrets before going after him or else he will burst you very quickly and kite around his turrets while you are ulting. Once you get about 2-3 items you can start beating heimer even when he has full turrets and cooldowns ready, still a good idea to take out his turrets early though so he doesnt have the burst of damage for after your ulti is over. In the mid-late game split push, if you don't think you can dive heimer then look to push him in and use your superior mobility to outrotate him on the map and potentially flank his team while he is holding the wave.”
Nabura says “Take fleet. Put on your dancing shoes and bait his abilities for the entire laning phase, some people hate this matchup but I personally find it fun as they usually constantly miss their abilities and slowly lose control of the lane. Just be careful of TPing back to lane, going for greedy last hits and bushes, as these moments CAN GET YOU KILLED.”
EntxRecoil says “Fleet Footwork Runes and Build. Ignite + Flash. Dorans shield start. Head to lane at the very start of the game and make sure heimer doesnt set up his turrets in lane, and also make sure he doesnt cheese your jungle buff level 1 either. Merc treads can help in this matchup or you can take tenacity on your runes If you are able to consistently take out heimer's turrets in the early game and not allow him to have 3 up at one time you can outsustain heimer's auto's and get very good early pressure on him. If you let him get his turrets down then he will be able to pressure you and shove you under turret and deny you CS. Post 6 you can look for allins on heimer however you need full fury and close to full hp to look for it, also you need to take out heimer's turrets before going after him or else he will burst you very quickly and kite around his turrets while you are ulting. Once you get about 2-3 items you can start beating heimer even when he has full turrets and cooldowns ready, still a good idea to take out his turrets early though so he doesnt have the burst of damage for after your ulti is over. In the mid-late game split push, if you don't think you can dive heimer then look to push him in and use your superior mobility to outrotate him on the map and potentially flank his team while he is holding the wave.”
ZergDood says “He needs one stun to win the trade (and he'll manage to do so!). He'll push the lane, focus on farming and punish positioning. Be careful when he isn't around, push your wave. You won't enjoy this matchup.”
Ayanleh says “He's pretty stronger than you early on but hes pretty squishy so get lv6 and take him to the shadow realm and kill him there as it removes his turrets.”
HIGH TEST TOP88 says “Haven't played this matchup that much, but heimers damage and waveclear is strong, you should be able to kill him if you get in however and you want to ult away from turrets during an allin if possible.
Take MR.”
wallobear53 says “Heimerdinger will attempt to shove you in while simultaneously trying to poke you. Destroy his Q with your AOE abilities while simultaneously clearing the wave. This will help you match his pushing power and will keep you even in the lane.
Avoiding Heimerdinger’s E should be your top priority, no matter which lane you belong to. That ability when paired with his Q turrets can destroy your health bar and kill you immediately if you don’t have resistances.
While CS’ing, make sure you don’t get hit by his W as it will give him a push as well as a trade advantage. Make sure you don’t let him shove you into your tower, or else he will just siege you under his tower or roam around the map and get leads elsewhere.
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laoshin3v3 says “You can clear his towers with your E, and they take damage if they stay near enough to minions. Just Farm up no reason to fight him without jungler.”
9690 says “D-Blade. Use his turrets as mobility against him. He will poke you a bit but it won't be enough to force you out of lane, especially if you can keep the pressure up on him. You should always have lane priority in this matchup. Outscales you. Take Fleet or Conq (Depends on team comp).”
BloodyDream81 says “Comme pour GP, le niveau de menace réel est plutôt autour de 4, mais il te faut de l'expérience sur Darius pour ça, dans un premier temps évite absolument ce match up, et considère le comme affronter Cassiopeia, un enfer ! Je vais quand même te donner quelques astuce qui rendront ça un peu plus viable.
Premièrement, prend "Second souffle" pour la regen vie quand tu te fais poke, deuxièmement prend note du placement de ses tourelles, et essaie de toutes les toucher avec ton A pour les détruire rapidement, ensuite, le E de heimerdinger (sa grenade) et son sort le plus dangereux, si tu parviens à l'éviter, non seulement tu ne seras pas Stun mais en plus les tourelles n'utiliseront pas leur attaque spécial sur toi. Si il utilise mal on E, utilise tout de suite fantôme et court lui dessus, en réussissant ton A tu le tuera à coup sur, n'oublie pas de t'éloigner des tourelles une fois qu'il est mort car elle continue à jouer pendant 4 secondes après sa mort.
Astuce : Des bottes de mercure, un phage et l'aide de ton jungle sont les seul moyen d'espérer faire quelque chose ! Bon courage, et reste forte !”
Kingarthur720 says “Fleet Footwork Runes and Build. Ignite + Flash. Dorans shield start. Head to lane at the very start of the game and make sure heimer doesnt set up his turrets in lane, and also make sure he doesnt cheese your jungle buff level 1 either. Merc treads can help in this matchup or you can take tenacity on your runes If you are able to consistently take out heimer's turrets in the early game and not allow him to have 3 up at one time you can outsustain heimer's auto's and get very good early pressure on him. If you let him get his turrets down then he will be able to pressure you and shove you under turret and deny you CS. Post 6 you can look for allins on heimer however you need full fury and close to full hp to look for it, also you need to take out heimer's turrets before going after him or else he will burst you very quickly and kite around his turrets while you are ulting. Once you get about 2-3 items you can start beating heimer even when he has full turrets and cooldowns ready, still a good idea to take out his turrets early though so he doesnt have the burst of damage for after your ulti is over. In the mid-late game split push, if you don't think you can dive heimer then look to push him in and use your superior mobility to outrotate him on the map and potentially flank his team while he is holding the wave”
Dantheman81 says “Heimer isn't really played very much but if he is all you have to do is q the turrets and they die. Without his turrets he lacks any damage to kill you throughout the game.”
Xplor says “Heimerdinger is not a threat unless you go all-in when he has his turrets down.
He will control the wave, you will do the same. Farm out of his range and poke with your Mists and "E" as much as possible. Do not engage on him unless you are confident you can take him down.”
TentiTiger11 says “By far the biggest problem to garen. This matchup is just straight up horrible. Heimer has great poke, high damage, and lane control with his turrets. Even with this build, he will still deny you so much gold and exp. If he poke you down, he can tower dive with his jungler. Avoid at ALL COSTS. Maybe ask your mid to lane swap at the beginning if they are ok with it.”
DirtyDishSoap says “His turrets don't outright kill your Ghouls, and he'll likely die by them if you land an E. Every Heim will push but it's incredibly important to bear in mind that 1. He'll be fast, 2. He can stun and kill you if you're not careful, and 3. Your jungler will almost always F it up and feed him.
Tell your jungler to not gank. Seriously. I call it "The Curse of the Donger". where your jungler suffers a seizure and they just fly in half health and die to this midget.
With that being said, Heim takes practice to beat, but once you nail it down, he's super easy.”
report singed ty says “You lose this lane and there's nothing you can do. Luckily for you, it's likely you'll never even have to fight this matchup. If you ever see him just dodge. He's probably the one matchup I always recommend dodging on. Your winrate vs him is something like only a 30% chance last I checked, it's crazy bad and it's not a matchup you can try and outskill your opponent in either.”
Sq_09 says “You can't engage him but if he doesn't place offensive turrets you can try and poke him a bit. Just don't walk into his stuff and he's a chill lane, that you just need to counterpush. If you take some damage he can W you but you can take the damage. ”
Beatport Expo says “Haven't fought him yet but based on experience, you're gonna have either swallow one of his turrets and throw it away from you and NOT directly onto Heimerdinger If your W doesn't kill the turret. This of course, cost you some damage and you won't be able to bring him away from his Tower since you used your W on his turret. ”
SirDrPotato says “A very very hard lane. The only reason why I do not put heimerdinger up in "Extreme" is because you are way better than him later in the game. However, laning phase is a nightmare. Buy doran's shield or corrupting potion and stay under turret, farm the best you can and do not try anything risky. Sometimes it might sound like you have a nice opening to engange him but trust me: You don't. Also, there are very few junglers that can help you, most often than not heimer will just kill you and your jungler, however, there are a few mid laners that might: If your mid laner is ahead and has burst - talon, fizz, diana - you can ask them for some help, be aware that heimer might kill both of you and if your mid laner denies to help you that's a very wise choice. Stay calm, you scale better.”
Subject3 says “stay under tower, stay under tower... stay under tower, look your skills can only target one thing, if he hides behind his turrets your q does nothing, if you try and swallow his turrets you will get nothing out of it, he has more.
if you try and swallow him! look at him go at mach speed around his turrets and you barely able to stack at him, and then die.”
Discord Rengar Mains says “Frustrating, like most yordle matchups. He will basically try to either turtle with his turrets or push like a maniac and keep you under your own turret, which is bad because you need bushes to have any pressure on him, and if he gets to scale he can be terrifying. Lane is fairly even otherwise, he is very squishy early and if you get a lead on him he either rushes Zhonyas or keeps dying without jungler assistance, both of which will set him back significantly. Try killing his turrets as soon as they spawn with a Leap + Q, they will reduce his pressure significantly and give you an opening, but respect his E+W damage or you might find yourself losing the trade if you don't have Emp W at the ready. At level 6 his ult will make directly jumping into him a really bad idea unless you are already ahead, so try playing carefully around it and don't be afraid to ask for jungle assistance to secure the lead. All in all, manageable lane where you can just crush the game if you get ahead and just farm if you are behind.
Ignite is good for early game pressure, specially since he is squishy. Fleet and HoB both work well enough, conqueror is an option too but he is very squishy and you don't really want / need long trades on him.”
Itreallyhim says “Annoying, But grab him with E, Q and then back off, use your W after his E or his W hits you.
Just a patience matchup. Stay strong in your mental and wreck his buildings.”
Rivenetto says “He isnt doing great in meta so hes not playable at top(thanks god) but hes an extreme threat to Riven.Try to fight him only if his E is on cooldown and if he dont have stopwatch/zhonyas.”
hephephepeEPEPE says “i awlays dodge this matchup because its impossibile to be on lane rush mercs and proxy if you want to beat him later on in game make sure to buy adaptive helm and hextech protobelt to kil his turrets
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Thr3shPrinc3 says “Neither one of you will really "win" this lane. Heimer doesn't have kill pressure on you unless you engage him in his turrets and you can sustain through his poke using Fleet Footwork. Try and shove your minion wave and roam into the enemy jungle or down to midlane. If you get a lead you can kill him in about 4 charged auto's once you have Stormrazor and Rapid Firecannon so if you do get a lead make sure you push it. Late game you can 1v1 him and most likely kill him before he really gets chance to do anything else.”
Blakespeare says “the poke is hard practice wave control and before engages you want to focus down the turrets taking his damage source away, This is a cull match up unless you are not confident in your side step ability then you want to take dorans shield.”
spaceriftmaster says “Heimer is actually pretty easy. Pre six he's very difficult to fight. But when you use death realm his turrets don't follow him into the death realm giving you a free kill even if he stopwatch's or uses hourglass.”
Braddik says “There's a small window lvl 2-3 where you can all in him if you set your wave up properly. Kill him twice and you'll kill him forever. Rushing mercs can be good here. If he gets to level 6 uncontested you lose.”
Trial_By_Barrel says “Basically an annoying match up. He makes his lane a military base and presses one button while his army of turrets melts your health bar. You also can't engage him since his turrets take zero damage and he can just stopwatch or hourglass and lets his turrets do all the work.”
Pedrokis says “Bonecão esse hein. / Poke ridículo com todas as skills e muito dano por segundo caso você vá pra cima e ele tiver torres, stun, Q e muitos minions perto dele. / Espera ele ficar mal posicionado e tiver sem Zhonya's ou cronômetro, daí você ganha facilmente.”
The Lost Drawing says “Es otro counter.
Especialista en bajar tanques con un solo objeto. Solo juega pasivo y armate 'Yelmo adaptable' despues tiene mejores TF fuera de sus torretitas”
TheRevenantsHand says “If this guy is patient, he can be quite a bump in the road. Just like other "spawnable" ults, wait for him to use his first. But beware, good players will wait for your ult first.”
Split King says “There is not much counter play for Shen in this lane. Do not fight him unless he is really bad. Focus on farming and staying alive. Rush Spectre's Cowl and Merc treads.”
JPlayah16 says “He isn't a huge threat to your existence, but you'll never get a kill on him unless you get seriously fed elsewhere first. Don't engage him during the laning phase and play defensively. Watch out for his stun grenade when you run up to last hit minions.”
Valorkyrie Quinn says “He has strong waveclear and poke. He is annoying especially after he builds Rylai's.
Tip: Beat him before 6. Destroy his turrets first. You can dodge his E with your E dash.
Bring Phase Rush and Nullifying Orb against him to avoid slow by Rylai's and his AP damage. If you are still struggling, you can consider buying Boots of Swiftness to negate slow.”
BeautifulWinter says “You will lose this lane. If you play other champions do not play illaoi into Heimerdinger.
Post 6 only play agro if you land E and can flash ult on top of him.
If the heimerdinger is bad you might be able to kill him with Youmuu's however I recommend building whatever will help your team more in team fights.”
Big Belly Bop says “He will be constantly pushing and ganks will be nearly impossible unless you have a jungler that can follow up and do damage. Ask for ganks and TRY to stay even in farm. Look for good ults across the map and roam mid if possible to gain a gold lead. You will out-scale him with items. Flash + TP, Corrupting Potion, Burst rune page.”
3rr0rL says “His spam of Q is very annoying. To win lane you need to wait the perfect moment to flash into him and kill him. If you lost a lot of farm and gave him couple kills, ask your jungler to help you.”
9690 says “Heimer is hard for us. Punishes us hard early game and isn't very easy to kill. Also difficult to gank. Build an early spectre's cowl in this lane and farm. Mordekaiser can be more useful in team fights so be patient. Heimer builds early zhonya's so he can also be tricky to kill inside of our R. Punish him before he finishes zhonya's post 6.”
Defensivity1 says “Be carefull to not get poked down too much by heimerdinger, if at level 4 or 5 you have 30% health or lower just teleport back to lane afther basing and buy yourselve a null magic mantle, against heimerdinger the conqueror page is recommanded.”
mightydylan101 says “Heimer is a counter as hes ranged and his turrets do a lot of damage to you even early. His turrets can also CS for him and he scales bad.”
ThisIsJustSad says “1, Heimer is only annoying if he manages to setup his turrets. You need to always be ready to trade your hp bar to make sure he never gets a single turret up. Use auto-q on each turret and the E auto reset + crit to get rid of the turrets.
2. If Heimer doesn't have turrets, he auto loses.
3. Heimer will naturally push the wave due to the turrets he places down. Kill them, then freeze the wave, then run heimer down.
4. You don't need to w Heimer Stun, you just need to W Heimer to slow him down. You can use your q at max range to give you more wiggle room to dodge Heimer stun.”
NasusIsMyBoy says “His little robot things are great at denying farm and poking whenever you get close, however you can stack them but you should watch out for the orb thing he throws as all of the others will target you”
Nightblue33 says “Try To Damage his cannons because if he out of it he will be easier to kill him and also he is a bad counter just go E and the Q and E again ”
Hamstertamer says “Boring. Just farm under tower for 10 minutes, and rush adaptive helm + merc treads so you can kick his ass later. Punish him with E if he tries to slowly chip at your tower.”
SummonedLight says “Good heimerdinger will just set up in lane and push slowly to your tower and tower dive with his turrets to out proxy you. Just go double proxy if that happens.”
HKRV says “Dodge. Seriously you can't do much in his early game. Even bigger bully than Teemo. Ask the jungler to babysit. Be on the move always, as staying still here is more of a death sentence. ”
Poppu says “Build MR, Adaptive Helm, play with your team and snowball them instead. Heim will just hard push and deny CS, really annoying lane to deal with.”
Shady Zane says “Heimer ze crazy yordle.. Great, here we go again with this.
Anyways, playing against heimer can get quite difficult cause of his turrets. SO you have to think before you strike and try to avoid his E. (Can't give much advice even tho I've played as/vs him in top)”
Petethebossch says “Just farm under tower until Heimerdinger makes a mistake or gets ganked. If not you will be able to kill him level 11ish if you haven't fallen behind.”
Jnewbringspain says “One of the hardest matchups. Don't try to solo fight him until late game. Ask for ganks in pregame as you will need them. His turrets make trading with him at close range impossible.”
Zestysquid says “Dinger is bad news. He will not engage on you and will kick you under your turret. His turrets have more health than your boxes and don't expire, but they don't do as much damage. Try to get your protobelt fast to keep up with his pushing. Roam as much as you can afford to in order to get ahead.”
M2 Jizu says “Juega pasivo y espera al gank del jungla, necesitas saber jugar muy bien para que no se te complique este Matchup, si eres Platino 4+ me imagino que tienes una idea de como jugarle a Heimer y como matarlo siendo Shen, si eres Platino 4- juega pasivo y espera el gank de tu jungla. necesitarás sustain.”
Onwego317 says “As a too hit Teemo Heimer can be a pain early. Make sure to get his turrets down as fast as you can. Knowing he will out cs you early lane phase is fine. BePatient and you will come out of the lane ahead on cs and the tower take down. Hurricane will change the lane once acquired for sure. Place plenty of wards around tribush and in the river. When Heimer backs to upgrade is when you take your stabs at the tower. It will be a slow lane as your jungler may be hesitant to gank due to his abilities and turrets. LVL 6 also changes the lane significantly in your favor.”
RainbowNova says “I literally haven't seen this guy all year besides in ARAM. I have no clue how he would fare against Tankmo, but I'd imagine that Tankmo could tank most damage with Adaptive Helm. ”
DrMoneybags says “This matchup is very annoying for any melee toplaner. Heimer is a burst mage that excels against low-range champs. His turrets cost very little mana and he can constantly shove you in if you don't have tiamat, which will let him poke you a ton.
Be careful when you engage on him with E, he can retaliate with his stun and that'll blast you with his turrets. Wait until he throws his stun grenade and then dive onto him. He gets enhanced movement speed around turrets, so landing your Q can be a bit tricky as well. Once he has Zhonyas it's pretty hard to beat him without a lot of MR since he can use his enlarged turret while he's in stasis to chunk you out. ”
Qubert64 says “Not very common matchup. Haven't played him enough to really give any tips on fighting him. Probably just sit under turret with an adaptive helm.”
Zdenster says “You don't get poked out. Take Arcane Comet. Don't fight him when all of his turrets are up. Use W to destroy them. Rush Sheen or Merc's Treads.”
Carlosm04 says “Rei mendigo e suas torres, krai esse bixo me dar uma raiva, tenta pedir ajudar do jg ou bate algumas torrinhas pra ele ficar desvantagem , n seja atingido pelo E dele, se nao as torres vao dar o dano do cacete”
nuken507 says “this little dude can do a lot of damage at range, vi has a very short range meaning that he can eat half your health before you even touch him”
E61K says “Start Doran's Shield and take Second wind + Conqueror. Heimerdinger has always been frustrating to play against as an immobile melee champion. The best approach to this would be rushing Specter's Cowl and then destroying his Turrets with Q's or a quick AA+W and then all-inning him when he has little to no turrets placed. Stacked turrets into a grenade can easily chunk you so hard that you need to cower behind your turret or need to recall. Other than that if you can't cope with him his pushing nature opens him up for a nice gank. Just play it smart so you and your jungler don't get double killed.”
SwiftOblivion says “Strengths: Consistent damage from turrets, Hard to Dive, AP, CC. Weaknesses: Low Mobility, Squishy. He'll be trying to poke you down heavily early game so build a hexdrinker against this guy and after you gain a few levels start trying to remove his turrets to mitigate his potential damage output. You will eventually outscale him and deal enough damage to kill him in a 1v1 so play the waiting game and don't give him a huge lead. Once you have hexdrinker, you should be able to all in him once he is either low on mana or is on cooldowns. That is your chance to punish him and gain the lead that you need in the lane. Don’t be surprised if you have to give up your tower early, that’s just how the matchup can turn out a lot of the time.”
Sion says “Post level 6 you win any and all trades as long as you E his ulted turret away and/or dodge his stun. Play around E max 2nd cause it's mandatory in this matchup. You will outpush and outroam him post 6.”
shlemvem says “Playing against a good heimerdinger with singed is one of the hardest things in matchups with singed. You can't engage, you can't farm, proxying is hard, etc.”
POTATOBEAVER says “Your kit cant really do much as Heimerdinger uses turrets mainly and not auto attacks, not much u can do before 6, try and get youur jg to early gank”
Zahkar00 says “Take Glacial.
Honestly this is just a cancer lane. But he isnt hard to kill. Once you get negtron and sheen you can just run up and kill him if his minion wave isnt to big. But realistically he will be outpoking you so you may have to rely on your jng'er”
Bakiraka says “Really not bad. Let him push you in and you'll outscale him pretty handily. Your barrels can also make short work of his turrets. Just forget about poking him.”
Trixelkour says “Almost a tier 5 threat, but winnable if you can stay safe and juke his stuns in lane. Take exhaust and ignite if you want an easy early game kill. Runes are pretty wide for Heimer since a lot of them can be useful against him. Get plenty of MR and you can win anytime anywhere. ”
E61K says “Yasuo is probably Heimerdinger's greatest counter. Heimer is basically like Orianna except that it's mostly the turrets which make Heimer the champion he is. The thing is that you are resourceless and can one-shot his turrets with EQ at level 2 or just use them to gapclose. After you are on top of him you can either windwall his stun or dodge it with your E and then he will be helpless. ”
undeadsoldiers says “Lane Aproach: Farm safely, you can all in when he has no turrets.
Key CDs:R
Notes: You can easily 100-0 him with triforce, Q reset on turrets.”
Mouadyam says “boring lane, you will die if you try to kill him inside of his towers so just farm boringly and abide by this veery fun champion's rules, kill the little furry if he gets too close though, an early spectre's cowbl can help with his poke.”
Demon Lord AC0 says “Trying my best not to insult this guy... You can move around him and dodge or windwall his abilities pretty easily. But he still does a lot of damage when you least expect it. Against him you start Doran's Shield and rush Merc and PD”
FIux says “Heimerdinger makes using your E hard since he would have turrets awaiting you. In this case, you would want to use Q to destroy his turrets. Only use E to engage when he has his skills on cooldown and you are out of range from his turrets.”
iam colorblind says “Very hard to play against.
You can't farm in early game and he poke's u very fast down.
Buy Hextrinker and try to cheese him!
Don't go on him in early game or you will be dead.”
CaioOP1985 says “His turrets are annoying and hurt a lot earlier into the game, but they are also a juicy source of stacks for your Q, so enjoy it while watching out for missiles and grenades.”
Ashnard says “Heimer has a lot of damage and lane control due to his turrets, but you can easily kill them with 1q + auto when u get the chance. Be careful of his stun grenade, it will chunk you pretty hard if it hits in middle of his turrets.”
DERPFISHrejects says “Your Q can quite reliably kill turrets in the later stages of the game. He's still going to bully you early, but you can win trades if you can bait the grenade out or have taken down some of his turrets.”
Dacnomaniak says “This lane is not gonna be fun. The Constant turret pressure means you cant really go in early. But an Adaptive Helmet and it will make your life a lot easier.”
IllIlllIIlI says “This little fucking yordle manages to piss me off everytime, but still not an extremely difficult lane. You can often come out on top if you manage to out manouver his stun.”
Nechu2448 says “He is annoying so much. Heimer can build sentries you can go past them or anything . you can try destroy but aslo heimer is danger , he throw at you grande and turrets start attacking you. To defet him you need jungler help
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thedunkening111 says “The 'you're not going to do anything' lane. What can I say. The good thing is you got tons of lock down, so ganking the guy isn't totally out of the question.
Take Aftershock”
galvapheonix says “ Heimer isn't really played very much but if he is all you have to do is q the turrets and they die. Without his turrets he lacks any damage to kill you throughout the game.”
DuhBrandon says “I know this a top guide but you have no idea how many people I've seen go heimerdinger top lane and crush me. Trust me its not fun. There is a high chance you will be behind on farm. if the heimerdinger gets ahead it will be near impossible to catch up so your best bet is to all in when you can and abuse your shroud.”
Middle Lane 52% Win Rate17% Pick RateHeimerdinger Middle Lane Counters: 5,4432,9991,911518141 matches, 51 counter champions
Counter RatingCounter rating is an expression of how strong or weak a counter is based on win rate, kills, and deaths, as well as early laning advantages or disadvantages. A higher number means an easier laning phase against that champion.
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Tips Against Heimerdinger in Middle Lane Tips Provided by MOBAFire Guide Authors
Wizardd says “Try to poke him and his turrets when you can. He has the tendency to turn gets around with his ult be careful ganking him.”
TheGBabaYaga says “He is not much of a threat even with his bots, dont forget that you can easy manipulate the waves of minions and leave him with no space. If he spams, you can spam more ”
NickLeVlach says “Tiny little shit... Syndra is basically the biggest counter to Heimerdinger since you can pick up his turrets with your W. Constantly poke him with Q as well. Easy win.”
Anguish333 says “- Doran's Shield+Second Wind needed, might take Fleet if u have trouble with him
- Make sure You don't get hit by his E, his turrets will hit you with Laser
- really hard to all in because of turrets blocking your E, he can just use his E on top of him to insta stun you whenever you go for ult
- Make sure you look which item he goes first, if he goes zhoniyas you will almost never be able to kill him”
Shoei baron king says “A matchup mais suave pro yasuo, as tropas são de boa de destruir, da pra dar dash nelas e tu bloqueia tudo oque ele tem, alem de ele ser um champ imovel”
Cryniu says “He will surround you in your turret. Try to poke him and clear the wave. If you are having problems Mercury's treads will help you, remember that Heimer has a stun.
Do your CC Combo when your jungle is coming, so you will hit his turrets and stun him.”
bhakli says “Free game IF you DO NOT DIE OR BE BEHIND IN FARM. He perma pushes you, get the free farm -> buy bork, oneshot his towers and kill him 99 times.”
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