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Tips Against Talon in Middle Lane Tips Provided by MOBAFire Guide Authors
Fuzzmonkey says “He can make even trades with you if you don't dodge at least one of his W's, since he needs to hit both and a Q to proc his passive. Try waiting until his W is down before making trades, this should make it a lot easier. Watch out for his level 6 and don't even bother trying to all in him until his W or Q is down or unless you plan on using your W to escape him.”
Yeager says “Start corrupting potion, then harrass him as much as possible at level 1 with auto attacks and E as soon as he walks up to cs.
Level 2 you need to respect his damage because he can easily burst you down with electrocute and passive proc. Keep your distance from this point and rush a seekers armguard for some tankiness.
You will outscale in this matchup, so your focus should be to farm up and ward properly because he will roam the entire game. You can't waveclear as good as him once he gets tiamat, so ward the river and the middle of the lane so you can see in which direction he's headed after he shoved the wave.
Getting a sweeper will show his shadow during his ultimate. He also can't jump over walls if you use your W: ”
eiensiei says “REACTIVE lane, not proactive. I'll farm and poke safely with E, but won't go for passive procs after level 2. My W is enough to nullify his W, but I won't stick around to trade back, his all-in burst is extreme. He can start roaming as early as level 3 using his E and once he gets fed in a side lane, he'll get fed from me as well. He's hard to follow since Lux is immobile, and without good vision setup in my own jungle it's difficult to know whether or not he's roaming bot/top or waiting to kill me. I'll spam pings and buy control wards and if I can see his movements, I'll follow and try to help my teammates. If I can't follow, I'll try to push in, but will probably not go for plates unless I have vision on him - his E makes him really fast and Mobility Boots only add to that. I'll build Zhonya's for his R and honestly for the armor (Ninja Tabi are a good purchase as well).”
Drewmatth Taliyah says “MELEE = PUSH EARLY (LEVELS 1-2) - CARE FOR GANKS! (SPAM Q'S TILL 50-60% MANA).
Doran + 2 Pots + Time Warp Tonic + Cloth Armor Early. I'd run Ignite against him because it's a winnable matchup if you cast your E properly. The trick here is to NEVER get hit by W (when IT IS RETURNING TO TALON). If you do get hit BACK OFF and wait for the debuff to wear off. If he hits you with both Forward W and Backward W he can jump on you with Q (you can bait it if he's low hp with your E). After 6 in the Talon matchup you will push (with or without minion demat) -> go bot ONLY when you see him being ON LANE. A Talon can one shot mostly anyone (besides tanks) if he's waiting for them on a bush and there's little to nothing you can do, but you can play around it by always pushing and roaming first (And returning through other ways OR recalling). I believe Talon isn't a very difficult matchup because of his predictibility. Post 6 you can engage on him only after you poked him down a bit with your Q (you can kite him from a long distance with Q, care to mobis/yomuus). One Trick Talon players do is that they like to stay nearby mid -> wait for you to go to the middle of the lane and then jump with E over a wall and insta damage you, do not fall for that. Always ping when he's leaving and make him lose CS. Take alternative routes to follow him bot/top BUT BE CAREFUL -- he has no walls, he can jump anywhere. The trick is to push first / roam first or kill him on lane. Get Tabis if you struggle in the matchup.
Pick Cleanse/Barrier if you feel you are going to get outplayed by his burst.”
Yeager says “Bait out his W(Rake) before you go for trades. Be careful of his level 3 burst, because it will kill you on the spot if he already poked you with w. Get a early seekers armguard to counter lethality he gets from items. ”
Yeager says “Seeker's armguard rush. Respect his lvl 2 all in, it's one of the strongest in the game. Play around his passive stacks. If he only hits 1 part of his W, he won't be able to proc the passive easily so you can trade back. He's mainly looking to shove the wave and then just afk roam all game, so it's your job to secure vision around his lane and the river sides so you can ward your teammates ahead of time. After the first hex core upgrade you can shove him in. Your wave clear is 10x better than his. You can't match his roaming, but you can push way faster and punish him by taking tower plates. Even if he sacrifices a wave and tower plates to get a kill in the side lane, it's still way more worth for you. ”
Fuzzmonkey says “Stay away from his Q range and you'll be able to poke him out throughout the whole laning phase. Make sure you only use your E if you know you're going to hit him otherwise you will have to play passive dude to his Q engage. ”
LunarVortex says “Respect his early game damage. In the midgame, don't get caught out of position by him. Get an early Seeker's Armguard and keep a Control Ward on the map at all times to make his botlane roams harder.”
Avucado says “Start E and get early damage. Look for hooks and q's to make sure he is around 50% hp at all times so that he refrains from roaming, he has huge burst so don't kill yourself doing it. He will shove you in and roam all lane, assume he is coming if you go to roam. E away if he R's and don't engage with E if he has R. Steelcaps arn't bad here if they have a lot of other AD but you want to go mobis to match his side lane pressure most of the time.”
Ambitieux says “Talon isn't much of an issue. Poke him out with W's and Q's try to save charm for all ins or if he is looking to Q you. Pick up armguard early or even go double armor runes. Keep autoing nonstop and you shall win naturally. Ward the rivers and call MIA.s ”
Eriosunx says “Lately talon has been more dominant in the midlane. Its a pretty hard matchup since talon has a way more burst than you and way more map mobility even from the first few levels.
Best option is going ELEC+BONEPLATING, and unless you are already winning lane rush seeker's and avoid getting bursted before level6.
With seeker+boneplating you are allowed to all-in him at lv6 and pretty much outlane him or kill him.
Make sure to run TP+IGNITE for being able to follow him around the map on the important plays.
You can also play IGNITE+EXHAUST and try to hard win lane, but most of the time good talons just avoid fighting you and start focusing on the macro plays”
AP WormMaW Mid says “If you can avoid this matchup, do it. In here, don't even try to go for autoattacks, or you are going to get his combo with bleed, which might get you killed even at level 2. Ward around lane and try to always have some sort of information where exactly did this guy go - whether he is roaming or just waiting behind the wall to make his parkour combo. In lategame you should go for Zhonya in order to survive his burst in teamfights, because you are mostly going to be his target, but during early and midgame it should be enough to just make Seeker's armguard. Though, if you play it right and he doesn't get incredible ahead, then it's playable, but we all know what is he cappable off, so even if you don't give him any kills yourself, he will find some kills anywhere else, which will just make your life in lane harder.”
Yeager says “You can harass him level 1 but DO NOT underestimate his level 2 all-in, keep your distance at all times. That's where most people die because they don't expect the damage.
Get early seekers armguard as it helps out a ton against AD champions.
When he gets tiamat, he will just shove the wave, and roam to other lanes. Not much you can do here, except for spam pinging your teammates to back off. Get lots of wards so your team can see where he's moving. ”
DarDarThePenguin says “Talon will always kill you if he can activate his bleed passive. Be very careful of getting hit by too many abilities. Talon can normally win fights if you engage on him in addition to outroaming you. Try to use either your E or Q3 to dodge the second half of his W. Be careful and outscale. Take the Standard page with double Armor.”
A Wanblee Wasta says “Your W removes damage from the Q Talon if it is activated at the time of the jump. Poke up to level 6, after that you need to be careful, watch the movements of the Talon and warn your team about it. You should try to punish him as much as possible for roaming, your W will help you in this, or move symmetrically to prevent him.”
xMetix says “Level 1 do not trade if he started Q. Be careful of his level 2 engage. If you can E through him to dodge the 2nd part of W you should win a long fight before level 6. After 6 make sure to cc lock and burst him before he gets to use his ult (much like Ekko or Ahri)”
TheoRut says “If he ults on you, you are dead. Try to one shot him before he one shots you. Buy zhonyas if you are not feeling safe enough. Take teleport and electrocute so you can follow his roams.”
angeLoon says “Conq Dblade in Resolve Bone Plating
Skill Matchup. trade with him when you have windwall or when he waste his W,if you're not so confident you can take exhaust.”
iKrez says “He won't be able to double hit W if you play decently.
Get oracle lens early in the game to see where he is while ulting.
Missing your ult will result to your instant death.
When talon ults, use Grass Q and tempo so he won't be able to turn all his shurikens to you by pressing Q.
His weakness is that he can't full all-in you pre-6 because he needs the double stack of the W for it.
Be sure to take VERY short trades and dodge the return of the W.”
WayOfTheTempesst says “Imo one of the easiest if not the easiest assassin to vs as Yasuo. The only real way you lose this matchup is if you get cheesed and first blooded lvl 2 which is when talon gets 90% of his first bloods. You can play up on him and fight him lvl 1, if he tries to fight you, you can chunk him massively and maybe even kill him when you get lvl 2 before him. If you can't chunk him when you both get lvl 2, be very careful because this is the time he can kill you pretty easily so stay back. As soon as you get past lvl 2 the matchup swings back in your favor as long as you windwall his W, you hard win the fight due to him not being able to proc his passive on you. Similarly to Pyke, he has no real solo kill potential on you post 6 and his only opportunity for kills is roaming on your botlane or toplane.”
Katawina52 says “Kinda skill matchup hard-favoured for Talon if he plays correctly. Never go for a trade if he has his W-Q up or you just auto lose it thanks to his passive and you will be 10% hp. Out of experience from playing 100000x vs Talon I can guarantee you he will use his W or Q on wave or to poke you with W. Once he uses his Q/W on a wave then you can look for an all in or trade. Bone Plating 2nd into Talon is really good. Also rush seekers if they got an ad jungler. Make sure to never fight a talon if he has his spells up, especially he has ult.”
WayOfTheTempesst says “Never had an issue with this matchup. The only lvls he truly has the edge is when he is lvl 2 and lands his W and Q on you. Wait till lvl 3 and and use ur E to dodge the 2nd part of his W so he can never get his passive off on you. Go fleet and shieldbash with 2nd wind.”
richardlized says “Talon matchup is a skill matchup. Whatever you do, try your best not to get hit by his W2 because Zed gets destroyed by talon early levels. You can bait him to Q on you and do a backwards wqwe against him, just like in the ekko matchup so he does not get to proc his passive on you, After level 6, it becomes tough to kill him because of his invisibility. Try to get a dirk and a sweeper before ulting him .
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iZianni says “Goredrinker Talon is a blight, you can still win early but ultimately the best play is not even trying.
Go seekers armguard and perma push that shit into tower so he cant get 10 kills on your side lanes.
ZHONYAS RUSH ANGLE”
kindo says “Talon in lane is extremely easy to deal with. Any all in he will not win, the problem lies with the same issue as all roaming assassin mids - he can just drop lane and roam for kills for free and there's little to nothing you can do about it. Once he snowballs, it's easy for him to force your ult with all ins since his ult is much lower cooldown and he can passively build CDR. Once he snowballs, he can just walk up to the wave and W it to clear it. At this point, best thing you can do is catch him out with some CC or bait him in your ult and execute him at the end. If your ult is down, do not engage when he has ult. If he doesn't you still win, but it's more risky for you to engage ever without your ult. Back to early game, poke him out and let him engage and fight in your W. Save your E for execute and you'll win just fine. Try to ping all roams and if possible, roam yourself. Kindred is 325 base MS, so it's hard to follow his roams.”
VyoS says “Talon got more damage now so he will outtrade you in the early game pretty hard. Play save till lvl 6. You got a higher range with your W, so try to poke him that way, poke him first and then ult, if you ult first he'll just R and your damage potential to kill him is probably gone.”
XayLies says “High damage early especially and overall in the game, but you can WindWall his W and R so his damage will really be limited until cooldowns reset.”
ReapeRGP says “He can burst you very quickly, don't let him poke you in early, instead you need to poke him. When he gets 6 push your waves when you can so he can't roam (try not to lose farm as well). If he uses R quickly place your E there because he can't get through it.”
Curt Mcbeltpants says “Talon has become a hard matchup lately since he's pure ad scalings and has the highest base MR in the game. Seekers early and match his roams when you can.”
Hullos says “Insane roam potential with the ability to kill you easy if you are not careful. Best way to kill them is lv2-3 with barrier/exhaust. They will often underestimate you and as long as you hit the q's you out dmg them. warn the team for roams and scale. ”
iZianni says “We win early, then he hits one item and becomes a nightmare. Build Zhonyas and hop to god your team doesn't give him 9 kills in the side lane.
Its hard to pressure lane if you build early Zhonyas because of the mana pool so it usually becomes a sacrifice :(. Seekers and Lost Chapter extremely important.”
Dj Memelord says “Armor or he one-shots you. If you can get an early chain vest, lane controll is yours. Follow his roams or roam the side of the map hes not roaming. Up to you and mapstate.”
MikeVix says “Pretty easy early just don't get hit by his passive. 6 you win. Just try to predict your Q's when he ults. He's probably going to roam all game. Just follow his roams for kill opportunities.”
mrmundo says “He'll kill you before you kill him. Avoid his Level 2 combo. Save your W for when he engages and try and use it before he ignites. After 6 you beat him.”
TheMockingSnowman says “Buy Seeker's Armguard and/or Plated Steelcaps early. Can poke you down. He can escape from sticky situations by using his E toward a wall.
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wDesired says “Even though you scale better than Talon, the pressure he can apply on the map early game is hard for your team to play against, try warding around mid lane to figure out where he is roaming to ”
SaltCat says “Hard match, level 1 poke him hard, level 2 and onwards you cant really do much, just chill and farm, and remember to ping when he is missing even if its for one second, and also never follow him to roams if you dont have vision, because he can fake roam to kill you. Buying zhonays is the best option.”
Vacavoladora says “Insane lvl2 power spike, try to wear him down when he's lvl1 and retreat and poke him when he's about to reach lvl2
Always remember to not get hit by his W return”
xoonaka says “Free kill respect his lvl 1-2, not much mobility in lane and he's very squishy, avoid his W pokes and look for an all in once the lane is a pushed.”
TheSecretsWithin says “Talon is on the edge of going into the Even tier but is surprisingly easy for Kassadin since most Talon players objective is to roam, it allows you to get free farm and with your E and R, you can deny him so much CS, do remember to ping your teammates when Talon roams, don't get cocky. When he W towards you, you can just R away in a perpendicular direction to deny the second passive stack. And if he continues with a Q, you can prepare to aa-W-aa combo. If you can walk away before he aa's you, it's the best, especially if he gets 3 passive stacks on you since he needs to aa to get the bleed. Your E slow will make it even harder for him to get his passive off, so use it to your advantage. Vision against Talon is essential. Either he gets a sneak attack on you, or he gets to roam to another lane. In either case, Vision is the solution, so try to help yourself and your team. And usually, you want to hug walls to R over, but against Talon, it's the opposite, stay away from walls, so he can't close the gap for free. ”
Black Shadow QIYANA says “if you dodge his W and you go for a all in i think you would not have any prob of killing him but he can dodge you and has inviz which can be a good way to dodge your skill shot so be carefull vs this matchup talon does alot of burst dmg ”
GabomanDeLegado says “Tenemos una muerte asegurada si no controlamos el lv. del Talon. Es necesario tener buena visión del mapa para cancelar al Talon y así poder estar siempre con un poco más de XP que él. ”
XD001 says “Do everything in your power to get level 2 first. Talon's level 2 spike can kill you 100-0 with no counter play, so if he gets it first he can deny you a lot of farm that you have to use Q and mess up the wave to get. at level 3 you win BUT only if you trade using your W shield. Play smart and trade when he misses his 2nd hit on Rake (W). Try to remember which walls he has vaulted recently as well. After 6 neither of you can kill each other as you both have built in get-out-of-jail free card ultimates.
Match his roams as best as possible. Zhonya's is a must buy here.
Ekko slightly outscales.
electrocute + inspiration + ignite
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Sanctuar says “He can get hit by your W and R while being invisible in his ultimate, make use out of it to lock him down with your combo. Dodging his W is important so he can't stack up his passive on you, avoiding unnecessary damage that can lose you a 1vs1 fight. After hitting level 6 he has a stronger roam potential so keep the river areas warded.”
Polarshift says “Pre-6 he isn't that much of a threat since you can dodge his second W but after level 6 he will oneshot you (if you haven't itemized against him yet) even if he misses his second W because his R also applies a stack. Unfortunately, he can apply way more pressure than you and thrives in messy environments which is huge in SOLOQ. Kills > CS meta is just too broken.”
ziolo to noob says “One of the biggest counter but still outlaned by Vladimir. The problem of him is his roams and that you cant push freely, because you will be really vulnerable from his low range burst. You can kill him on lane if he just farms, because you outrange him hard. Dont let him roam, or other lanes will be doomed, try to burn his ignite and R.”
Noodles912 says “Play extremely safe at level 1 and 2. Then look for a level 3 all in. Remember to get out immediately if he hit both parts of his W. Only use R when he doesn't have his, or you can kill him fast enough. Remember your R provides TRUE VISION, so he can't turn invisible.
He has the waveclear and roaming advantage always. If he roams, spam ping your team back.”
duhnx says “Turns trading into all ins. Don't fight him if he can proc his passive and play safe and follow his roams while spam pinging to be careful. One of the people I ban when playing Pyke.”
StarTundra says “counterbuild with seekers, go phase rush, he can't do anything anymore. That is- until he roams bot and gets a triple kill because whats a ping am i right.”
NaJua says “Based on recent changes Talon has the upper hand against nidalee but high skilled players are more like able to defeat talon.
But for low elo players is more like a danger.”
Katasandra says “[1] Dodge the return of his W
[2] If you got 2 passive stacks on you (from W), stay away so he can't Q. Especially when he hits lvl 2.
[3] Can't E away when he activates R.
[4] Warn team against roams (incl jungler) and place wards.”
elnino9 says “Trade when his W rake is on CD. Don't let him proc passive on you, it takes 3 abilities to land for him to proc it and he has to auto attack. Setup with Q daggers and poke in and out. Setting up with E-W means you'll take his full burst damage unless his abilities are on CD. Watch for his melee range Q as it crits. At level 6, your ult overpowers his ult.”
DabiDabi says “Talon will always try to hit you with two W's and Q on to you. Dodge his first or returning W and you'll be fine. If Talon does get two W's on you get ready to immediately press shroud when he Q's onto you so he does not get passive proc on you. Your shroud counters Talon pretty hard, since he really depends on his passive. Your shroud lasts longer than his ult.”
Wunsch3957 says “Skill matchup. Try to poke him with Q level 1 when he misses his W on you. Out roams you by a lot, try to get level 3 first and let him push so you can all in him after blocking his W.”
The Jhin Cena says “Go either Fleet Footwork Rune Page. Overall Talon isn't too much of a threat to Yone unless he happens to snowball. His only advantage he has over you is level 2 when he can use his W > Q combo on you to proc his bleed which can do a considerable amount of damage. Once you hit level 3 though, you can easily dodge his W with your E and engage from there with a Stacked Q, and he won't be able to out damage you during these extended trades. The main threat Talon poses is to your other lanes since Talon players generally abuse his wall jumping to frequently roam. I'd suggest deep warding the jungle such as behind the dragon/herald in order to keep an eye on where Talon is roaming + keep an eye on the enemy jungle. You can also simply deep ward your lane and ping the respective lane relative to which direction Talon is roaming. ”
Lot of Wind here says “He can oneshot you at level 4. You can block his E but it will only block a tiny portion of his whole burst. On top of that, he will have more roam potential. Avoid picking Yasuo into talon.”
Wunsch3957 says “One of the easier assassin lanes for me. Dodge his W and Q him every time he walks up. Try to only trade with him with your E and as soon as he hits W back off. Conq with flash/exhaust. ”
Impossible2Gank says “You're able to bait him with your Q onto boxes when he tries to Q in just make sure he doesn't get you low enough to give him a chance at a kill. Armor is recommended early.”
nZk01 says “(Mid) can be annoying but overall very easy to deal with pre 6 and he has to get into melee range for his Q to not get canceled so its quite obvious what hes gonna do, would recommend ignite/Barrier.”
Modern Giraffe says “My favorite matchup. Trade hard lvl 1 using your passive and avoiding his passive. once he is almost lvl 2 back off and try to trade with q's while his w is on cooldown. They are usually cocky and need those early kills. So dont give them and use your w defensively, if he roams ping like crazy.”
Sailor MOwOn says “I can't win this match-up, so it's my usual ban. He roams more than you can ever hope to roam, and it is so hard to clean up his messes. I recommend just banning always.”
Coldsong says “Talon has one of, if not the strongest level 2 in the entire game. Dodge his W at all costs and rush a Seeker's Armguard. He is very weak against hard crowd control, so try to flash R him when you have Pyromania up. He is also really good at roaming, so ping when he is missing.”
13 yr old korean says “he's not very hard to go against with your windwall you can block his w and r making him disabled. but the skill difference will decide the lane's winner just like akali.”
BigBushMan says “Playing into Talon is kind of hard, but still definitely winnable. Surrender the wave at level 2, as if you don't he will kill you and snowball off that kill. look to try and trade at level 3, as he cannot Q you while you are in W and can look to try and outplay and maybe even kill. Level 6 is even between the two, with the advantage being slightly favored to talon due to his invisibility with his R, just try to predict his movement in his R and you should be fine. ”
nZk01 says “(Mid) can be annoying but overall very easy to deal with pre 6 and he has to get into melee range for his Q to not get canceled so its quite obvious what hes gonna do, would recommend ignite/Barrier.”
Saddest says “You will not win ANY trades, unless he is a first time talon. Most Talons will use their W on the wave though, and this is a chance to get in a QUICK trade. E away immediately after picking up your dagger. DO NOT LET HIM PROC HIS PASSIVE ON YOU. Ward deep in the river, so your botlane knows if he's coming.”
tomzieE says “runes - conq, triumph, alacrity, stand; taste, ravenous
his w is weak, when he w, u can trade him, his electrocute runes will take u some health, but he is easy pre 6”
shidonryoku says “Talon is a bad matchup because you can't farm near him due to his combo damage. He pushes and roams, but you can't answer him anything. Don't follow him, or he will kill you from behind the bush. The whole lane stage against him is farming under the tower.”
BigFatCat909 says “Just like Akali and Ekko, if one engages the other one chooses if someone dies, whether by fighting back or by simply retreating. Both of you are AD Burst Assassins with the abilities to engage and disengage. I recommend Eclipse though Prowler's is completely fine though you might want to invest into Plated Steelcaps if that's the case.”
Johan Paracelso says “Another Skill Match-up. Talon can chunk you down and attack the wave at the same time, you should W when the Talon's W return, since the second part of his W deals more damage. when trading, watch out for his Q. At melee range it will reset his Auto and chunk half of your HP, but, at range, Talon will jump to you, so keep this in mind. When Talon procs his passive, you can W him and the wave to gain some Shield, and, since Talon roams a lot, it is hard to follow him, so, try to farm and ping your partners about his rotations, and on one v one, if you can CC him before he casts Q, you can kill him”
Hiimkata says “Kinda skill matchup hard-favoured for Talon if he plays correctly. Never go for a trade if he has his W-Q up or you just auto lose it thanks to his passive and you will be 10% hp. Out of experience from playing 100000x vs Talon I can guarantee you he will use his W or Q on wave or to poke you with W. Once he uses his Q/W on a wave then you can look for an all in or trade. Bone Plating 2nd into Talon is really good. Also rush seekers if they got an ad jungler. Make sure to never fight a talon if he has his spells up, especially he has ult.”
ShadowSlayerMain says “Don't approach him in Early Game so he can't mark you with his Q and W, you can poke him from more distance than he can, try to dodge at least 1 of his marks after he uses his R”
Poppi Sama says “High poke and all in potential, look to full combo when a charm is landed. Talon will ult towards you, use this opportunity to retreat to tower and charm, stunning his ult time and dmg.”
Pixel Pocket says “The toughest of the AD Assassin matchups due to his waveclear, especially if he goes Tiamat first item. He can make it hard for you to do your job early and pre-Deadman's he does have a good advantage in 1v1s. Try to get deadman's early and consider getting an early set of Ninja Tabis, especially if they have an AD jungler or top laner.”
ParkChnm says “Farm safe under turret. Satchel Charge him away if he gets too close or throw out your minefield and force him off or to walk through. Zhonya's is a good item.”
chrissmunro says “High burst damage, however has to get close, so make sure to save your stun for his lunge. Your e is a good counter to his ultimate too”
KataTocDo says “His three-hit passive will just melt you. Watch out for his Q. Dodge his W. You can get hit by the first W, but not the second. If you have two stacks on you, just walk away until it goes away.
Runes: Conq-Resolve or Elec - Resolve
Starting Items: D Shield, D Blade, Dark Seal”
Yeetmeister57 says “Early on you can't match a hyper roaming mid like talon, so play trades well and make sure to pressure them out of making map movements.”
Elite500 says “Talon can go either way super hard, basicly ad aurelion, can kill you and outroam you if he does, but you can make him eat shit too and then stomp”
Yamikaze says “Take exhaust. He has insane burst lvl 2-3, so don't get poked. You want to bait out his W(Remember the hitbox gets bigger when the daggers are returning), then you can go in for quick trades with your [[bone plating]] ”
VeneficusFerox says “Worse than Zed, hurts lots and lots more. Forces you out of lane easily, you will need a lot of jungler help for this one. Just leave the lane and help push bot, don't look back.”
wildersovereign says “This champion is a massive pain to deal with if he knows what he's doing. Do NOT let him get his passive off early, as you'll lose a massive portion of your health. His roams are extremely threatening, even for an assassin, so keep your fingers on that alt key for whenever he goes missing. I highly recommend buying an early Seeker's Armguard to deal with his burst, as he is actually quite killable once you lock him down.”
Ryank30 says “Fleet + Resolve. Like all other melee champions besides Yasuo, it is very easy to lose lane against a Talon. Even if the Tiamat changes do hurt him a lot, his abilities and trading combos still out damage yours by a mile. Play around his cooldowns, go in if he misses his W. Give him one kill and it could potentially be over. PING YOUR TEAM FOR HIS ROAMS.”
ITSDEBEAR says “Similar to tf. Dont let him get passive and abuse his low range. Phase rush is cool here too since talons build bruiser items this meta.”
rajsovsky says “Annoying. Rush seeker's. Don't get off guard. He can easily kill you. Gets a lot of kills from roams. Don't fight him. Try to stay safe farming and you will see what you will be able to do in this game.”
invalidd says “Tricky matchup that you can definitely beat consistently, you WANT him to jump on you with his Q so you can hook him and combo him and you
will end up winning the trade, you can also E behind him when he Ws you so the 2nd W doesn't hit you and he doesn't proc his bleed which ends up being
a huge trade for you, ping his roams the most you can because his E allows him to have perma map pressure even at level 3, sometimes you can follow up
but not always, respect his lvl6 combo if you're 40% hp. Ungankable.”
Sylvan Lore says “Talon has the highest first blood rate in the game and it's for a reason. You need to respect his passive stacks on you since the bleed of the 3rd stack is so heavy in early game. If he lands 2 stacks of his W on you, completely back of from the minion wave until they decay. If he flash Q Ignites you, you will bleed for nearly 400 damage at level 2 which can go straight through your barrier. Don't get to worried about the first part of his W hitting you, just never let the return part hit as well. Do your best to poke him out in lane without taking too much damage so that he cant all-in you. He is useless from anywhere but ahead lategame, so just farm up and outscale him hard.
Recommend: Barrier and Vs. AD Assassin Build. Take Tabis as well if their team lacks sufficient magic damage. Also consider swapping runes so you can get a stopwatch and have an even safer early game. ”
lkycch says “You need to be able to save your allies as he will do his very best to roam and snowball. Shutting down Talon early is the only way to beat him, so make sure you don't let him get fed. He can only jump onto you if he gets too close, so respect his range and his W in lane, so that he can't get you low. Remember: Summoner's Rift is a 5V5, not a 1v1. You don't have to stay in lane and suffer a losing matchup!”
lkycch says “You need to be able to save your allies as he will do his very best to roam and snowball. Shutting down Talon early is the only way to beat him, so make sure you don't let him get fed. He can only jump onto you if he gets too close, so respect his range and his W in lane, so that he can't get you low. Remember: Summoner's Rift is a 5V5, not a 1v1. You don't have to stay in lane and suffer a losing matchup!”
Nanelol says “You can't really play vs him. He can farm from a safe distance and also outpoke you. Don't die in lane and try to scale against him. If he freezes the wave, you are doomed. You either ban zed or talon everytime. You can go Zhonyas but theres no point, only way is to ping your jungler. ”
SkellyBirb says “You can negate a lot of Talon's damage with your shield and poke him down in lane so he's not too bad, but if he catches you off guard or while your shield is on cooldown, he can burst you pretty hard.”
0rlandoPlum_ says “He can beat the shit out of you in early. Now add this to every lane bully or strong early champ and you get AP GP's entire life. AP GP can work on more farming focused laners and junglers”
KASSAW1N says “
Kass vs talon: al igual que los otros matchs ads, guarda brazo, tabis y lueeeeego te pones runas elec para tener daño. Te puedes llevar tp, ignite probablemente no porque el tiene mas daño base que tu. Trata de iniciarle cuando gaste la Q y W (preferiblemente que gaste la W) y ya luego no tendrá tanto daño para la pasiva, un tradeo corto y retrocede. (compra hielo eterno)”
Dr Eggmund says “Care Talon's early game damage as soon he gets 2 stacks on you he will want to all in you. Play passive throughout laning phase. Most importantly let your team know when he's not in your lane, as Talon's mobility will give him the option to gank other lanes effectively.”
Tortoise_Maniac says “- Puny assassin
- Buy seekers
- You beat him 1v1 (except at level 2)
- Try to push him under tower and roam with your jungler
- Be careful of talon roams with his E
- Early seekers armguard makes it impossible for you to lose trades
- If you really want to sit in lane and bully him, you can max W and tank his damage, you win fights but be careful if you're not running ignite”
Big Shawn says “Talon is a full engage champion. Just like Ekko. But what makes him fragile is his leap towards you. It deals a lot of damage, sure. But that is where you can deal a lot of damage too, and potentially outplay him with your W-Ability when he tries to retreat. Not to forget, your Ultimate does kinda outsmart his ultimate.”
Scyrine says “This matchup is pretty much just a race for whoever gets R first, since either one of you can kill each other. I would say wait to use E until he jumps on you, then combo him right after. ”
BCota says “UNHOLY DAMAGE WITH HIS PASSIVE. Jesus does this guy hurt. you can outrade him all the time as long as he doesnt hit you with his bleed. If he throws his W move sideways to dodge it coming back. If you do it successfully Auto+Q and auto until you feel like his CDs are back up. Try to always trade with Super Q. Once he hits 6 if he uses his ult try to play reactively in the sense that you can pool his damage before he ults you like Syndra ult you can just poke him down and set up the one shot but be careful of his passive”
Chili Dog says “talon can go either way super hard, basically ad ASol, can kill you and outroam you if he does, but you can make him eat shit too and then stomp. Electro recommended but both can be taken.”
Loading..Please wait says “Hardest matchup early since he can burst you at lvl 2. He falls off like crazy as the game goes on so just hug your tower, farm and be patient”
FalleN3 says “Talon has a decent amount of early level damage so be careful of your positioning at all times. Wait for him to use his (W) Rake before you try to harass him, (Q) + AA or simply just an AA. Try to not play this lane aggressive in the early stages unless you have a clear opportunity to come out on top. After level 6, you can burst Talon down but remember that he is an assassin so it's crucial that you can actually survive his all in. Rushing 'Seekers Armguard' -> 'Rod of Ages' is a solid option when dealing with Talon. ROA is a must have!”
SkellyBirb says “Talon can do a ton of damage to you, but you can deal a surprising amount to him. You need to kite back on him early game and poke him down after he engages to go even in trades. ”
Last Roar says “Can force him off minions early with AA's. Kind of similar to akali, will rely on abilities to farm if you do this well. If you play well, he will mainly look to roam to get a lead. Don't be caught in the jungle, or he'll probably kill you, especially post-6.
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Obj: Outfarm, if he roams one way, you roam the other or take turret (Ward).”
vCraze says “Talon can be a very tough matchup because of his mobility and the amount of chance he has to roam. You cannot allow him to land both parts of W on you as he will then Q-AA for electrocute (if he has that) and his passive bleed which does a lot of damage especially early. You need to always keep your distance and not allow him to get onto you as this will cost you and do not follow him into the river or jungle unless you know for certain it is safe because he can jump over walls.”
OxiteoMyst says “Play around phase rush and dont get hit by both shurikens when he W's. Spam ping when missing in mid and dont overextend. He can nuke you if you let him, flash away from him if he has 3 passive stacks on you and has r and try to place W on top of yourself if he wants to Q. You outscale him hard and if you didnt feed him he will become useless and erasable with a single combo. ”
SkellyBirb says “Talon is practically a glass cannon. Once his abilities are down, there isn't much he can do. Be careful of letting him roam and getting fed.”
Mad AkaTha says “At lvl 6 use W when he uses ult
You can play Aggro lvl 2 and trade
Use E behind him if he uses W he will always miss it so he will not be able to proc his passive”
Sadkid says “This matchup depends on you not getting hit by his second W. If you dodge that and play towards your range you can beat him. Watch out for his cheese in bushes and don't get baited by his fake roams. ”
WolfRider01 says “His early game and his roam potential are extremely hard to match as Yasuo. Take exhaust, don't trade him early as he can one shot you level 2 and 3 if you're not careful. ”
Lavishmouse1032 says “Talon is semi weak level 1 but beware of his level two and remeber if he gets the first wave and one more minion for the second wave he will likely to go after you
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MagicalFartz1 says “Electro with heal or ignite. Talon has really high base Mr making it hard to harsh him out. Care for his lvl 2 cheese dont get poked by his w. If he q's you E him. His roam potential is really high so spam ping dont try to follow his roams unless u have vision. Rush Seekers if even or behind Sorccs if ahead.”
open_48 says “in low elo there aren't many good talons but if you
find against him rush seeker's armguard. DON'T PUSH AND FARM UNDER YOUR TORRET (with kassadin is not difficult). PING IF HE GOES TO ROAM.”
economistastonks says “Just don't let him poke you and you will win trades. If he is in execute range and you are low, ult on top of yourself if he ults... generally talon players will try to kill you before thinking about escaping. ”
DrWindwall says “This could be even but once he gets his R he can oneshot you. Before 6 hes not rly a counter for you. All his dmg comes from his passive so as long as you deny his W with your W you're good to trade with him with not much fear.”
Bobbab says “Skill matchup. E behind talon if he wants to all in with his w and you should win as long as he doesnt get bleed on you (pre 6) ult when he ults.”
sweodigaming says “Same as Zed, try to rush Zhonyas to ignore his R, his early levels are strong when he is running ignite + electrocute. Be good at warding and SS'ing so your team does not get ganked.”
JoshAy says “He is strong early where you aren't. Play your lane safe and don't let him snowball off you. If the Talon is good and roams punish him by pushing waves, if he stays keep the lane in a safe position. Good ult for roams or skirmishes if you know how to use it.”
MetaKnight13373 says “When talon hops on you you have a small window to hit a guaranteed charm on him, this prevents any damage he could deal to you and also allows you to chunk him for a ton. ”
NightSoar says “Should be Pretty easy just dodge his W and he will never go in unless he has a gank and you can jsut want for him to step near one of of your daggers then combo him to death (should 1 shot him before lvl 5)”
Manzey says “If facing a skilled Talon this matchup will not be winnable, but that doesn't mean you can't go even, just stay back and poke with Qs when he goes for lasthits, when he is low enough, feel free to go and last hit with basics.”
Apo420 says “ with recent talon nerfs, lane should be a lot easier
if you really want to play safe then take double armor stats in runes
as long as you dodge one part of his W then you outdamage him pre 6
since he can't proc his passive
usually if you try to walk up to melee a minion he will W you (this is very predictable) so as soon as you see the animation for W then E behind him to dodge both parts then beat him up”
Grayified says “Bring exhaust and possibly sustain runes to win matchup. You win level 1, and then you lose hard until level 6 where your next chance is, but you dont have a good chance at winning.”
ZeMoller says “Talon is a super free lane for Cassiopeia since he has to come mele to trade, and if you can wirthstand his damage, (with for an example: seekers and a tear + barrier) then you can run him down afterwards. The fact that he has to q you to do any real damage , sets up the perfect chance for you to get a good ult off, and if he doesnt have ult, then u've got urself a freekill and a free scaling lane. The only chance talon has to kill you is if he gets disgustingly fed from roaming, so be sure to ping ur sidelanes missing.”
kenichiii says “One of the ad matchups. Survive early, give up some cs, be sure not to get hit by both of his w, he can 100-0 with his ult and ignite if u dont have seekers armguard. You outscale him pretty hard with kassadin. Take fleet footwork and domination, teleport. When he chunks you to low just recall. If he buys tiamat and roams spam ping the team and push the wave on mid. There is not much u can do about his roams, max e.”
Jamakin12 says “Can burst you down early, but you start to outscale him eventually. Unlock W level one, and attempt to avoid the return of his W. Killing him is difficult, as he can disengage with both his ult and his E. If you're going for the kill, make sure to silence him before he can disengage. Freezing lane early levels is recommended, as he has an incredibly strong early game. Danger ping when he's missing, since his roam potential is significant and you are likely to lose macro.”
Yeager says “Favoured talon. PLAY SAFE early game, and don't get cheesed by his level 2-3. He always has more damage than you think.
Focus on dodging the return damage of his rake (W), and never stay in melee range for his Q crit, unless he's stunned by your W.
Rush seekers armguard early so his lethality build path won't oneshot you.
You can't really match his waveclear when he gets tiamat, so he's free to roam after pushing. Have proper vision and spam ping your teammates to back off, if talon is out of vision. ”
FalleN3 says “Poke him as much as you can and zone him with your ball in the early levels. Take Barrier for this match-up as this will give you the best chance to survive his early attempts of killing you. A sensible Talon will play passive in lane against you and will harass you with (W) Rake when you step forward. Talon is super at roaming and a decent one will do so at any given opportunity. It can be difficult to keep up with him due to his ability to leap over walls so you will have to think quickly, warn your team and either follow him or push the lane etc... If he picks up a couple of kills (from you or from roaming) he will be difficult to deal with. After level 6 he can be difficult to all-in 100-0, this can be made a little bit easier when his ultimate (R) Shadow Assault is down, you might want to have jungle help to ensure a kill.”
Yeager says “Bait out his W lvl 1 and then you can harass him. At level 2 you have to be careful because his passive proc + Electrocute will deal over half your HP. ”
Yeager says “Rush seekers armguard to counter his armorpen build. Don't get poked by rake lvl 1. Talon usually sets up a kill level 2-3 by poking level 1. If he can't find a kill in lane, he will roam to other lanes and find kills there. Get good vision so you can let your team know when he roams.”
Frixen says “One of the toughest matchups out there. Dodge or ban if possible in champ select. If not, then go ahead and stack armour, ping your team whenever he's missing, try to roam and just not die in lane. The only way you can poke him, is whenever his W is down pre-6.”
FalleN3 says “Start with cloth armour and health potions and rush Seekers Armguard if under preasure (try to aim for gunblade though, unless you really need it). Farm as much as you can and try your best to dodge his (W). If his (W) is on cool-down you can harass him and consume your (Q) mark. He will look to roam a lot so be sure to either follow him or be ahead of him and roam yourself.”
SkellyBirb says “Talon is practically a glass cannon. Once his abilities are down, there isn't much he can do. Be careful of letting him roam and getting fed.”
FalleN3 says “Start with cloth armour and health potions and rush Seekers Armguard if under preasure. Farm as much as you can and try your best to dodge his (W), if you do this you can likely harass him with your (Q)+(W)+(E). He will look to roam a lot so be sure to either follow him or be ahead of him and roam yourself. If you don't follow him, he will likely get fed from your teammates which in turn will result in him getting more fed from you. ”
Reason97 says “If you can avoid his dagger's so he can't pop your passive and stack his passive on you, you're fine. if you CANT dodge his daggers, and he pop's your passive and stacks his passive, you die. pretty much as simple as that really. You can significantly hurt his attempts to all in you after level 6 too, but if you do give him a chance to combo you, you WILL die. ”
Reason97 says “Talon thrives on his roam and his ability to do a lot of damage quickly. Stay closer to your tower when farming, so if he does decide to dive, he'll get punished for it. also keep in mind that when he uses his ult, he is invisible, but not untouchable. You can still throw up a blizzard under you to damage him, or even stun him if you can correctly predict where he is or where he's going. Like Aurelion, always make sure to alert your team when he's MIA. ”
xAsuta says “Talon realy is not that hard. You can jump on him lvl 2 and bully him out of lane. Don't underestimate his all in at lvl 6 since he has high 100 to 0 potential. But if you get an early advantage and ninja tabis you are good to go.”
BloooodTV says “D-Blade. Dodge his Ws and don't underestimate him. Avoid him bursting you down level 2/3, he can easily 100-0 you. You definitely need windwall level 3. If you are going to windwall his W, windwall it on the way back. This stops his passive proc and has a way better chance of succeeding than trying to windwall his W right when he uses it. He will always be roaming because of his E so just abuse turret plating to get ahead of him even if he gets a kill on the roam. Outscales you. Take Conq.”
Godzillababy says “I almost always ban Talon 1v1ing you he has a big of an upper hand but mostly because of the fact he can get away and roam so easily and before you know it your bot lane is 0/6.”
Jimmy1337 says “If you want to kill him, just try to bait him to cast his R first, then after he becomes visible again then, try to cast your Full combo with Ult.”
arcanejhin says “His burst will hurt. You should be able to easily dodge his W and all in him.
He will roam because you will destroy him, make sure your team knows whenever he is missing and follow him or hard push tower.”
Fadedreformed says “Pretty hard to deal with, even if he is 0/5 he still can one shot you with his ultimate for no reason at all. Fight him when his ignite is down, or cheese him lvl 1 with w”
Shock_101 says “Talon level 2 is scary, so dont let him get both qs. However, pre-6, he has no way of procing his passive if he misses one of his ws or miss clicks his q, so abuse that heavily. If you q him while hes on top of you, your passive will give you move speed while moving towards the edge of the ring, so use that to get out of his w.”
ShockMaster says “Poke him hard with Q,after the 8.8 patch you can buy Oracle Lens at lvl 1,which help you a lot if you against 1 or more invisibles enemies. After level 6 make sure he used his W and if he s not near a wall you can go all in him.”
Yuki H. says “Assassin lanes are the best, and facing Talon is a test of skill. He wins all ins if he gets his 3 stacks off which make you bleed for a lot if proc'd with an auto. Remember, if you dodge his W, you have an almost 100% chance of winning the trade. Also, make sure to let him ult before you ult, unless you're certain of his whereabouts. This champion LOVES to roam- after all one of his abilities is made solely for this reason.”
Proma says “Sword + pots
Skill matchup. Depends on who know their champion better. Pretty much comes down to who can burst who. Play smart and avoid taking 3 stacks from his passive and you should win. he can match your roams and vice-versa. One of the more fun matchups midlane.”
Topofall says “Another annoying matchup as his Q zones you from getting cs. He can then dash onto you and deal massive damage. I usually ban him if im planning on playing kat.”
Veralion says “HoB/Cloth armor. Talon finally received a meaningful nerf through the recent Tiamat cost increase. He’s still unbelievably busted and will execute your entire team with with terrifying efficiency if he is allowed agency in the game. You can’t hope to match his roams, so your job is to control him and keep his health too low for him to even think about it. Don’t underestimate his early game combos, they hurt way too much for such a slippery and mobile champ. His level 2 does an incredible amount of damage, and he probably has the most dangerous level 2 in the entire game. Wait until level 3 to trade. Starting cloth armor seems to work wonders; you need a little bit of armor to prevent being bursted down too low and preventing you from re-trading. Gets you a faster Seeker's, which is always a good idea. Trades are pretty much even at level 3 with this start. Never let him proc his passive or electrocute for free. You can easily run out of his W recall with your W, and the first half of the ability pretty much does chip damage. At 6, immediately ult at him and force his ult. He should retreat knowing he can't stand up to you, but if he all ins you should survive with a stacked Seeker’s. Then keep doing it. Killing him isn’t the point; it’s to apply enough pressure to force him back continually and off of your other lanes, who will int to him in half a heartbeat if you let them. A roaming Talon is MUCH less threatening without his ult. If he goes for one anyway, shove in and build a level lead, and make sure to spam ping while you’re doing it. ”
Witcha Jeralti says “Build Zhonyas after Sanguine for him and Zed (If they are not terribly behind), do not ever get hit by the return of his W on lane. Buying stopwatch on his lv 6 can also save the game.”
Mr38i3 says “All assassins can be a threat to karma. Her only way to win against Assassin or AD champions in general is by poking them and get them under 40% HP to win the ifhg by a gank or go in with full hp and do 1 R Q and ignite them and do some basic Attacks. Most importantly remember to root them with W”
Silva San says “Talon. If he's missing do not roam looking for him just ping it don;t over extend and if he presses R use e and run. A trick is if he press r in front of you he's 9/10 running in a straight line so ult and run.”
Omega Zero says “Melee matchups are more forgiving and skill-based, letting Yone get easier time to get good trades off and being easier to maximize Spirit Form's damage.”
ai darkfluid says “Poke him to fight and never walk up. Spam ping danger when he goes missing, or you'll cry when he comes back to lane with 3 kills. Only try to fight him when he's in your kill range. With the amount of bonus health built with this build,
it is much harder to burst you. In lane is the most dangerous with this type of build.
Preferred rune: Comet”
ThatOneKatMain says “Cancer champ rush start cloth 4 rush armguard try to survive early and dont let him roam for free. You will outscale mid to late game.”
TK.BENEDICT says “Kassadin has a difficulty when it comes Damage base Mid lane Champions like talon that can escape easily with her Third ability (Assassins Path) that can jump though walls and other things. With talon skills he is difficult to match with with her Rake (Second Skill) that can deal damage and slow you and talon's Noxian Diplomacy that can deal damage and talon's last skill (Shadow Assault) that make him invisible and deal a lot of damage.”
The PaIe King says “Anti-Assassin
Summoner Spells: Exhaust/Flash----
Build Path: Rod of Ages, Sorcerers Shoes, Liandry's Torment, Zhonyhas Hourglass, Void Staff, Rabadon's Deathcap.
----Rune Page: Electrocute, Taste of Blood, Ultimate Hunter, Zombie Ward, Presence of Mind, and Last Stand.----
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maxtenj says “You can stack armor to negate damage and outscale him. But due to his mobility he can just out roam you and win the game through his superior roams.”
snukumz says “Try to wave clear and keep him from roaming.
If he doesn't get on you you don't have anything to worry about so play safe.
Be careful when roaming or going to clear a ward, he can hop over a wall and whollup you fast.
Ping your allied lanes to be careful when he leaves lane. ”
VTatlin says “ad melee champs like talon and yasuo are easy shit bc once you get a cloth armor they can't do anything on you, and you do much more damage at melee so they never win trades”
1256 says “so this is the ad asol expect that kassadin ultrasucks in this matchup, you outscale at 16 but before that gl, he roams and kills everything except if you ping your teammates (maybe), dont get hit by the full w and youre good to go, be careful after 6 because his r gives 2 stacks of passive nevertheless, but its winnable
fleet+res”
AZIR MEN says “Easy lane. Rush Seekers if you have to. Poke him down, watch out for his lvl 2 and his W poke. Ping when he's MIA.
Take electrocute/conq”
only yasuo play says “Shits on you levels 1 and 2. Play VERY safe cause he can easily kill you. After level 2 only take small trades with eq after he throws his w IF you still have passive shield up.
When he roams shove minions under his turret and spam ping your teammates he is roaming. You do outscale Talon if he doesn't snowball too hard.”
Art1val says “As long as you can land your e over walls he won't be hard to chase. You can build Zhonyas against him if you don't feel conformable. You should be fine though.”
Zwengo says “Be careful of his level 2 and make sure to get your E second. Also get zhonya's first item. Max your turrets and punish him if he tries to destroy them. ”
PepeOnDrugs says “Start with cloth armour and health potions and rush Seekers Armguard if under preasure (try to aim for gunblade though, unless you really need it). Farm as much as you can and try your best to dodge his (W). If his (W) is on cool-down you can harass him and consume your (Q) mark. He will look to roam a lot so be sure to either follow him or be ahead of him and roam yourself.
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xXAhriXx69 says “Talon can be a problem since he will be able to one shot most champions but the threat is kinda little since for his ult to go on you he has to go in a straight line towards you so its actually really easy to land a charm and burst him down before he can kill you.”
ImaTastyPancake says “Because Ahri's early game is not the strongest, early game dominators like Talon can be a major threat to Ahri. Best thing to do is play safe until you get ult and are able to get away.”
yuuwumi says “IF YOU COME CLOSE HE FUCKS YOU UP, WAIT FOR HIM TO USE HABILITIES AND TRY TO TRADE WITH E+Q+W
ALSO CAN PERMA ROAM VS KASSADIN, IF YOURE VS TALON JUST DODGE”
Ekko Rush B Guides says “Skill based matchup. You should always stay away a bit so he won't hit a empowered Q on you. Poke him in lane with Q and dodge the second part of his W with your dash. If you have good reactions, stay in the same place when he ults, so you can chronobreak on him when he exists ult by attacking you.”
evilforreal says “Save RW for when he jumps onto you. Since he has to come to you, you'll be able to constantly be refreshing Mantra while poking him consistently.
Try focusing on pushing the lane to stop him from rotating as often, as there's no way you'll be able to keep up with him. Ping enough and try to get Tower slots whenever he makes a move, or take Teleport to try and countergank.”
KataFlix says “Talon focuses only on diving you, he is a small threat when he is seen but it gets bigger when his tactic is to hide on bushes and dive you to counter Talon use your Q again and again until he reaches 55% HP and then you are free to dive him with all your abilities”
MaxskeProductions says “Talon always did a lot of damage but now that he goes conqueror , ekko cannot burst his tankiness. You have to spam ping all talon roams and try to end the game early before he gets deaths dance.”
manipulativexd says “You can't really deal with him. He can farm from a safe distance and also poke you. He will pretty sure roam on early, ping it always, don't die to lane and try to scale against him. If he freezes the wave, you are doomed. You either ban zed or talon everytime.”
Debonair Karma says “Talon can't really all in Karma since she can RW and E away and poke him from afar but his most threatening asset is roaming potential. Always keep an eye on him and follow him if you see him leave. Take teleport/barrier/igntie. Go RoA+Seraphs.”
Gageowago says “Poke and pressure level 1 and back off level 2 to avoid being level 2 all inned. Talon can also jump to you and then throw his w to try and proc his passive that way. Even if behind he still can one shot you. Buy Seeker's or at least cloth armor on your first back because an early seeker's neuters him to the point of uselessness levels 3-7. Talon is also one of the few lanes where going double armor runes might be helpful. ----- (Patch 10.7 Note) After the nerfs to his early W. it is much harder for him to kill you lvl 2, and he cannot one shot you from full hp. Still, be very careful of him because he still will easily burst you and one shot you later on.”
topal says “Talon is a melee so Galio should be favourable.His early damage is better and his waveclear is better as well.If talon gets nerfed ( He is op for so long) this muchup should be even.”
Papapostolou says “You can easy poke him, until level 6 try to just w (Sanguine pool) his q if he double hits you with w. easy match up i suggest you zhonyas tho, his damage is kind unbalanced, also care for talon's roam, he might get fed from that.”
Lil Tidepod says “Be careful for Talon's level 2 kill potential. That's the only reason he's a 3 threat. As long as you don't miss your Q, you will shred him. Hit those combos and if he dives you, as soon as he's visible out of his ultimate, root him. He can't dive you if you're under turret unless you're super low because you can just root him under it.”
Fhizzikx says “Stay away from walls and know when he has his r up. Early game shove him in so he cant roam. Pre6 you will want to be bullying him and poking him out of lane. Do not trade with talon if he can get his passive off because that can easily kill you. Don't underestimate his oneshot potential. Lategame he can still oneshot you due to his passive.”
Capparelli says “He's Talon you will never have a true lead, use E when he uses W to dodge the second part of his passive, and use your root to all in and your canopy to trade”
roskataka says “He has a lot of burst dps, don't let him engage since he's able to poke you early, fight him only if you have a stolen ult, if possible- his, play extremely safe, ask for assistance,”
Cheesecake404 says “Extremely Hard to do anything in this matchup as Talon can one-shot you after he hits 6. Just try and farm and scale up. Ping like crazy when he roams.”
serruh says “Hard but not impossible. It used to be really easy to punish talon in lane, now without shields and low base armor, you find yourself having to take much less trades. however, rush seekers and transition into your build without dying and all will be well. there are still some roams he can get off but you should be able to shove him in 90% of the time(after level 5). look to group with your team if he's getting out of control, one EW and he should be dead”
RockitoAhri says “With the proper build he cannot 100 to 0 you. Poke him up a bit, pressure him. He won't roam, he won't dare to engage you as he won't have the damage. Just build the armguard, and the HP part of Liandry or Morello. In extreme cases you can go Ninja tabi. He does not have the damage to kill you, but you do. Play it properly and you win every time. ”
Kami_EU says “Talon's heavy burst and lane sustain/high escape potential make him a tough opponent for Yasuo, especially in the earlier stages of the game.
Try to deny the return damage of Talon's W to deny him the passive and/or electrocute proc.
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The Venerable Racoon says “Basically noxian zed. Build zhonya's to survive the lvl 6 all in. Ganks won't help if he's not stupid since he can jump over things”
BabyTwisty says “Play as passive as possible against him and look to rotate with your jg to secure kills and get ahead. Don't roam a lot vs him due to his e.”
Inscaped says “Skill matchup. He needs to jump directly on you to trade well. If you do not give him the opportunity to do so, he'll never reach you. However, his Q puts him at a disadvantage against you, since with good reaction time you can throw your E under him, procing half your stones, then throw him away with W and finish him off. Be fast, or he'll kill you.”
AriyaIsTheBest says “Talon thrives on champions who are severely weak in the early game, which means you won't be having fun dealing with him. I highly recommend banning this shithead. By the off chance that you get stuck against him, play safe and stay as close to tower as you need to. Don't greed for farm, and use your Q and R as necessary. When Talon leaves lane to roam, shove up the wave as much as possible while keeping the river sides warded, then either recall or retreat to near the tower. Remember that it's okay to lose a lot of farm if it means you don't feed him kills.”
Polygon XVI says “Talon's early game is everything you don't want to play against when playing A sol. You want to watch for his lvl 2 power spike and you want to farm from a safe distance away from his W's range. You can bully him with your W when he's farming but you wan't to back away so you don't get hit by both parts of his W.”
ur_mom_gay says “Not as bad of a matchup as some Zeds think. You can poke him for free every time he steps up to hit the wave, especially if he wastes Rake. You definitely will lose trades early since his base damages are absurd. As you get more items, the matchup becomes more and more in your favor.”
KC_Toxic says “Max e and build armor and call out roams as you can and keep him shoved in after 6 so he will loose cs everytime he roams. Its hard to keep him at bay in lower elos but your teammates should listen to pings in plat+ if you spamping enough.”
chrisloths says “Basically the same as Zed and Diana. However, he is much easier to poke. Pre 6 it's somewhat even, just keep your distance and never get within his Q range because that'll be a sticky situation. Post 6, avoid fighting him and wait for teamfights.”
Witchxry says “Talon has very good poke and is an AD assassin that can shred you very fast if you aren't careful. Focus on poking and CS, and try to play safe. near your turret until you can roam.”
Sloyr says “His WQAA+ Passive damage is REALLY high, so dodge his W. After you dodge it you can all in ( before 6). After 6 you have to dodge W and then, when he ults, E away on your minions, so that you can engage him again shortly after.”
Yas Yasu Yasuo says “Skill matchup heavily favouring you. Level 3-5 go all in if he misses his W1 and W2. Level 6 onwards whoever ults first loses, get Oracles. You're W-E-Q is much easier to land than his combo. PLEASE WATCH OUT FOR HIS LEVEL 2, YOU CANNOT 1V1 HIM AT THAT POINT. Hit 6 before him? All in. ”
THE BIG BAD SAD says “well if ur a main u sht on him but if u r not u most certanly are royaly fked
if u wanna win just pick barrier trade him on to lvl 2 so that u both are halflife wait to get lvl 3 without getting poked be under ur turret or atlast on ur side of the map miss ur e behind u in turret range so that he sees it then he will press q(his jump that follows u anywhere) and flash in ur bubble if u time it while hes jumping he will be in ur buble under ur turret then ho mostly runs one step out of the turret u follow he all ins u but u just press barrier steal his flash and ignite and he dies can be made without f if u have ult but that kinda takes more skill”
G7_Zeke says “Be very cautious with Talon. If you're overextended, and all your abilities are on CD, but he has all his abilities, say bye bye. Bait out his abilities. Shrouding when he ults is very effective. ”
Eccentricks says “Talon isn't as bad as Yasuo or Le Blanc (because you can win) but he isn't as easy as Zed.
The number one rule of Talon that you may have heard before is the level 2 and 3 powerspikes. Talon is the first blood king and all of that.
Respect him during that time and farm safe. Do not step in the line of Rake, instead pick a position that would make Rake have less value (not in the minion wave but still able to Q the minions).
If you reach level 6 without dying, congrats, you have gotten out of the fire. But you aren't at victory just yet.
Talon will roam, and be sure to call missing every single time he is not on your screen. I'm not being over dramatic, this is what you have to do.
Overall, Talon has no easy weakness and he is a good ban if you feel like you can handle Yasuo.”
ekkologix says “he has strong early game all-in, and roams better than you ,but i don't find this matchup dificult unless you're against yamikaze.zhonya is a must.”
Zeyan says “Impossible matchup to win if equal skill. Even if you do not die to him, he will hyper-roam. Very hard to 1v1 aswell. Only downside is that he falls off post 20 and you will have more use. ”
KrisTheZedster says “Nowadays Talon players play him with Conqueror, that provides him with a good sustain. You basically just farm up and roam to sidelanes, there is no point of 1v1 him, because he outdamages you pretty hard”
Daedralus says “Do not get triple stacked for your own sake as he can pack a punch. But here is the good part. By using your Q latch, you can easily dodge his returning W blades by going behind him and thus getting rid of his burst that he heavily relies on. You are also capable of seeing his general location in his ult if he is marked. Ulting him shuts him down pretty hard like any other assassin under CC. Your speed is also capable of catching him after his jumps, but not recommended unless you have your ult to jump with him, or your Q to latch to him. Due to his slow jump, it is very easy to latch, thus also giving him an easier rating as a matchup. Your E is extremely useful as it deals with his burst overall, and should be immediately used if he Ults to counter the incoming blades. The fear also puts him on a disadvantage as your next Q will hit fairly easily, granting you the HP that you lost right back at you, possibly even more as your E reduced the damage =)”
583498534583 says “level 2 de talona ölmeyin
w sunun geri dönüşünü asla yemeyin
rün olarak kesinlikle kemik zırh (bone plating) e ihtiyacınız var zedde olduğu gibi talonu da outscale edebilirsiniz (oyun yeterince uzarsa) ”
Tehqo says “Ever since they removed his blink, this matchup just got easy. You'll want to ward to stop him from roaming though. Poke him in lane because he's melee and push so hard that he can't roam. If he does roam, don't try to directly follow him because he could kill you when not in lane if you're not fed.”
NebuIa says “He has his infamous level 2 combo with his passive early. Watch for it. If he leaves lane and you don't have vision, don't facecheck him or he might stay and one shot you instead. Try barrier if struggling, maybe phase rush.”
TheBlueImperial says “Do not doubt his level 2 damage, it's an insane amount of damage that will delete even Galio, you have to respect it. He's an incredibly good roamer but you can follow level 6 with relative ease.”
Je Suis Azir says “set up a slowpush, poke him and control lane for the first few levels. You have more power than him to dominate lane until he gets his combo. You can poke him out of lane and outtrade him with proper positioning and wave management. ”
DirtyBellyDC says “Not as mobile in lane as Zed or Yasuo so not as much of a threat to you.Q
Pre-6 you should be able to poke him out of lane while outfarming him.
Ping your team when he disappears so he doesn't roam and get fed.
Rush Zhonya's after boots.”
INT Zimmi says “the talon matchup is normally not winnable, especially when he starts roaming u must not follow him at any time! He will probably just 1 shot you and delay your lategame spike. Try to warn your laners and keep scaling, you will get a feeling when you can 1v1 him. ”
cobbzy says “Mostly don't get killed by his all in. Also, make sure to dodge his poke when you can. A jungler with CC is good in this match-up because if you can't kill before he starts jumping over walls then it'' be hard to secure. Take doran's shield.”
arcticmonk says “Talon has stronger wave clear but when his W is on CD then AA the wave to keep him from shoving too hard. Wards are key as he will likely roam for kills. ”
KK Antitoxin says “His R can help him dodge all your damage after you ult and he has pretty good roaming compared to you. Keep track of his roams with wards and alert your team.”
matijez says “talon is a very strong assasin with high dmg but low hp he can run from your ult by jumping through walls when you play vs him just play very defensivly when you have around half of hp you have to recal if there is no team fight or an ocasion to get a tower or objective ”
Te Hago Un Pan says “When you lane against him, make sure to get barrier and put your e before his combo starts, if you lose in lane phase you could do something in late.”
vaske_lol says “Don't let him hit the return part of his W. After level 6, if he throws his W out onto you, you can use the Q + E combo onto him and then R backwards to avoid getting hit with the return of the blades. ”
Aizenvolt says “Talon after rework is easier to deal with. He doesn't have the burst damage he once had. He can't oneshot you after 6 in a second. He doesn't have a good enough gapclose and his w is easier to dodge when it returns to him. In lane just poke him with q and e and when his hp is low go in and kill him. Just keep your distance and harass and you will beat him. Ping when he is missing because now he has a lot of mobility, but if you play it right the lane is yours. He isn't the assassin he once was, don't be too afraid of him but don't be too relaxed either.”
lewdog says “ahhh hello fellow assassin:). Most talon players will try to go for a all in level 2 so watch out for that. Unlock W level 1/2 and try to bait out his all in on your clone. At level 6 when he ults on you use w to go invisible and hope that he dives on your clone. If he dives on you you can use your ult to instantly knock him up and back off so he can't complete his combo. Overall even lane as you will both be wanting to roam a lot.”
LONERlSM says “Annoying roamer if you play your cards right you can win this lane but the fact that when he roams you shove his minions to the turret, making all his unsuccessful ganks a netprofit. Rylias 2nd item.”
DravensBukkake says “Ignite/Barrier matchup.
Literally easiest AD matchup for Azir. IF you know what you're doing. Levels 1 to 3 setup soldiers on minions, force him to farm with W or else he tanks autos. If he throws rake, walk away to the side or backwards. If he hits you twice, he wins, even if you do more damage as landing passive stacks on you is beneficial for him. Never be within his Q range, its very small. If he Q's a minion and kills it, the CD is cut down by half. Constantly shove him in, rush stinger to match his shove. He literally cannot do anything against you, except throw W's which do no damage. If he does manage to land 2 W's, just walk back and wait out the passive duration. Ward inlane, or side bushes/river to stop his roams. If he suddenly disappears, he is doing either 2 things. 1, he is roaming, or 2, he is flanking behind your walls to try kill you. Use your judgement, and also save W E Q if its the latter. This matchup becomes very very easy if you're experienced, as his playstyle is so linear and predictable. If he roams a lane without shoving first, he loses a lot of exp and cs, and you can get platings, so its usually worth. Otherwise, ping MIA once he dips lane. ”
Mid Win Repeat says “Terrible match up. Unless you have a solid jungler I would avoid fighting him, early on you won't have the mana to shove the wave more than he can so farm where you can under turret and ping your side lanes when he roams and shove the wave under his turret. After you build Lost Chapter shove and roam. Against all high level threats the best way to get ahead is to let them shove, ping when they roam, if they don't get a kill on the roam they lose 2-3 waves and tons of XP.”
Marumo says “Threat level 9.
This guy is a huge pain. If you try and play safe and prevent him from killing you, he roams and kills your allies. If you try and get kills, he'll kill you, then roam and kill your allies. The best you can do in this lane is farm, and get an hourglass for the late game.”
Braddik says “take grasp runepage and you can counter him. he'll start roaming the map before you do so spam ping ur team and push the wave and take plating and XP. late game you outscale. rush seekers”
spark2 says “The key early game is to dodge the return trip of his W--when he throws it out, dodge to the side with your E so that the return trip misses, then go in on him. He loses early trades without his passive, and before he has his ultimate he can't apply his passive without hitting the return of his W. His kit's power is now much more balanced around his roaming ability, so ping both bot and top the second you notice he's not in lane. He's honestly a rougher matchup for your bot and top lanes than he is for you right now. Don't bother trying to follow him when he roams, since he'll get where he's going much faster than you will because of all the out-of-combat movespeed he builds and his E. Instead, just shove in the lane and try to either take his tower or at least just cause a bunch of your minions to die to tower to deny him CS and experience. And PING!!!”
HeisendongNA says “He punishes mistakes really hard and you simply can't use your grenade as he is quite mobile. On top of that he has an ability to clear turrets from range and dangerous burst at lvl 2 and 6. Also his mobility and invis on ult can be rather annoying to deal with. Best option is to take Exhaust and build Seeker's early and keep in mind: Talon is an amazing roamer, try to pressure him so he can't roam for free and snowball.”
Cloud375 says “He can literally oneshot you if you are not careful enough. Before level 2, he is pretty easy to deal with, but once he has his dash he is a lot harder to deal with.”
IceBite says “do not trade level 2, he will always win when hes on the same skill level as you. Same as Zed matchup.
Dont die level 2 and always ping if e roams. He falls of after 3 items.”
Garybaldo says “Stay as passive as hell, buy early armor, pray you don't get deleted, you outscale hard. Spam-ping the hell out of sidelanes when missing, he has great roam potential”
Sneaky boi says “He outrades you because of his passive and has the ability to kill you lvl 2 so just play safe. You can bait R or Q with clone so try to keep that on mind. Wait for ganks”
Jiyani says “Try to avoid Talon levels 1-5 if possible, His passive stacks will almost always outrade you and with Diana's shield being on a higher cooldown it is not as easy to soak up damage.”
Novok says “With the proper build he cannot 100 to 0 you. Poke him up a bit, pressure him. He won't roam, he won't dare to engage you as he won't have the damage. Just build the armguard, and the HP part of Morello. In extreme cases you can go Ninja tabi. He does not have the damage to kill you, but you do. Play it properly and you win every time. ”
SirZeros says “Talon is really strong against you.
If he leaps over a wall, try to react as quickly as possible and stun him at that wall. If you see him ulting, try to estimate where he's gonna be at that time and ult him. If you ult yourself, his ult is easily countered, but his shortranged Q and his W are enough to kill you instantly, so it possibly isn't the best thing to do anymore.”
Noirubilac says “Major threat in lane. You win lvl 1 trades, but after that its all downhill. Freeze wave under tower and try to cs, if you can get jungler to gank.
(gankable, freeze wave)”
MironW says “This matchup is even, playing against him should be fine unless he pokes you a lot, if he does he can probably one shot level 3 or make you waste your flash.”
Euphoric Toaster says “Harass him early and dodge his Rake, as if hes able to proc his passive on you when you have 3 wounds it does a ton of damage. Talons Q can leave him very vulnerable if wastes it on a minion or if hes jumps onto you with it, so it leaves him open to an easier stun. After level 6 never overstay or he can all-in you as he really quickly gets to the point where he can oneshot people that aren't at full HP. His Ult makes him impossible to stun before he jumps on you unless you predict his position while hes invisible, otherwise you have to be reactive to it. You can get Sweeping/Oracles Lens to better track him when he Ults and once you get a Zhonya's Hourglass you negate a lot of his assassination potential against you. His E makes him pretty tricky to chase, so its never really worth chasing after him. Talon likes to push a roam so be SURE to aggressively warn your sidelaners when he might be roaming.”
xdKami_ says “Extreme bullshit W hitbox, you can oneshot him with Ludens if he does not build Magic resist.
But he'll one shot you.
Hourglass recommended.”
Chromuro says “A melee champ that doesn't have a lot of mobility, E him to death and use your Q to spot him in case he uses his ult. Beware that he can still stick to you for a long time, try to get away from him as fast as you can if he all-ins you.”
Big Shawn says “Damage is high. His Q allows to dash to you, meaning that your W (Windwall) will be useless against him when he dashes to you. You should avoid facing him until you have your first full item.”
SeeEl says “hit him so much until he gets brain tumors with your auto + q&w. Use shields effectively into poorly timed all ins and kill him if he fights you in your wave. Respect his level 3 all in and level 6 all in. You should have priority for most of the laning phase with exception to level 1 shove cheese.”
Fox1ne says “Well this is not old talon,basically to one shot you he needs to hit level 2,if you harass him level 1 a lot he will not be able to trade back level 2,don't let him have minions. The one task you have to do is to harass him and zone him out of the wave. When he hits level 2 just keep in mind his all in combo. Dont underestimate it.”
DVL CHALLNGR says “Don't use your R before his own and don't approach him in Early Game because you won't absorb the damage from his Passive
When you get a combo with R don't let him catch you. Use you W2 and R2 to outsmart him and move fast”
Patoxic says “Maybe the Worst of All, he can be invisible, burst damage is high and they can easyly kill your turrets, how can they be more annoying? oh yeah they jump walls, so they can run away from your turrets and ganks lanes very easy.”
ZenonZeni says “Talon is a good even matchup since he has alot of damage. But if you get Zhonyas before or after level 6 his ult will do nothing, only if timed correctly it will negate the damage.”
Wizboy73 says “he will try to poke you down with his w then q in for the bleed, if you hit lv3 this can be countered by your W. try to get to 1150 gold asap to shove the wave. this nulifies talons roaming unless he wants his tower to die. Take barier so he cant oneshot. You outtrade him later.”
EvilOranges says “D-Blade. Skill matchup. If he ever lands both parts of his W on you, be prepared for either a Q or a flash Q all-in. His level 2 is better than yours, but your 3 is better. A trick to get him to run in and die is to bait his W to hitting you the first time, then dashing in and windwalling behind you to stop them from coming back, thereby only giving him 2 stacks of his passive. This might cause them to engage blindly into you with no passive, meaning you win. Whenever he roams shove and ping repeatedly that he is missing. Take Conqueror.”
TruePvPYT says “This can go even or just go really bad, you either deny him from farming and roaming or you loose the laning phase and oubviosly the game.
Take oracle lens to counter his ult and wait for him to finish the ult and the you R him and do a double jump combo and maybe get a kill or most likely survive.”
Vispectra says “Talon or the best AD assassin. He will not hesitate to absolutely destroy you in lane and if not you he will destroy your botlane most of the time. Start cloth armor and 4 bots into this nightmare and you should be okay. Be wary that a talon can kill you if he hits level 2 even if you have 70 % hp, W Q Ignite will probably send you back to spawn, and don't think you're safe under tower , some will W flash Q ignite and leave you a bleeding burning mess. He becomes a lot less of a problem later on though as he falls flat compared to your late.”
Zero Two says “If he falls behind, he will stay behind. Another skill matchup. Be sure to harass him before level 6, and know not to overextend as he will kill you very fast. When he uses his ult, try to toss your bubble behind you. He may be invisible, but that doesn't mean he cant be hit by your abilities. Play with caution.”
Best Akali Fra says “Talon have poke (W/Z), extreme mobility (E + R)... Just what you need for makes problems to an Akali !! Try to trade him before level 2 (same as with Qiyana) and then wait the good time to go again and force him to stell under tower and miss farm, he's gonna be forced to roam for trying to get kills... ”
quinniston says “Pretty easy to deal with, very easy to poke him out of lane, and with your W its easy to see where he is, watch out for his ult though you are still pretty squishy ”
Comini says “Thats a bad mathcup for Kat, but as all her matchups, you can outplay and win 1v1 against him.
Try to avoid his W and his powe spike lvl 2. At lvl 3 you can start doing LITTLE trades with him. Be careful at his lvl 6, he has a massive dmg and can oneshot you easily.”
Xavier Senori says “Talon is easy to deal with in lane. Push him into tower early on to deny him CS and prevent him from all inning you amongst your minion line. Eventually you will want to get a zhonyas to counter his ult, but early/mid game focus on pushing him in to deny him the ability to roam and get kills elsewhere.”
Pumparum says “Talon has more than enough damage to kill you early and you cannot keep up with clear and roams. You are simply outclassed. The best you can do is ping and call out accurate MIAs for your team and potentially follow him once you have enough armor.”
unownreality says “bursts you in a millisecond, and can maneuver quickly. Buy seekers armguard to help, and move to an hourglass if he tries to dive. Trade pre-6 and only if his ult is on cd. ”
kilgta says “his allins pre6 hurt you a lot, he can roam and he runaway easily. you usually outmatch him in teamfights. so be careful early. Deny him when he walks up to take farm. Do not push him level 1 to 3. Lets him push you or match his push. He will allin you at all cost level 1 to 3. If he QSS first item look to chapter into zhonya imediately. Finish your ludens later. Start corrupt pot.”
MechaaZero says “I've never had a problem with this lane mainly because many talons leave themselves open on full engages. If he comes from side raptor wall and R's you, then you may have a problem, but personally I find laning against him easy.”
Latarnia40 says “Your slows help you a lot here. You cant really poke him with autoattacks early becouse he might oneshot you. You can use WE combo from a save distance to poke him”
EvilOranges says “D-Shield or Corrupting Potion if you are confident. Don't get hit by his returning W, if you do, stay far far away. His level 2 is so much stronger than you, and he can just jump on you and kill you with Q-W-AA-AA-Ignite or W-Q-AA-Ignite. Watch his level 2, stay safe. When he roams, just farm under tower. DO NOT FOLLOW his roams. He can oneshot you even after your Rod of Ages. You can build Seekers Armguard early if you gave up a kill or two. Max E and take exhaust. Take Grasp of the Undying runepage if you want.”
Ponito says “Tabi.
Play safe early levels. because Ignite + his passive, can 1 shot.
Avoid lv 1/2/3 trades.
Get armor runes.
Windwall W / R
care LV 2/3 And lv 6 ”
RagexAddict says “Talon may have some trouble dueling you early on, seeing as one of his abilities is completely useless against you in lane. You need to alert your team the second you don't see him in lane anymore, as his E allows him to roam better than any champion in the game, next to Aurelion Sol. Try to put him in the dumpster early and to shove out lane and get some damage on their towers when he roams. You can try to follow him if he roams, but that could end up poorly for you seeing as you get caught out, he'll be in an advantageous position to chase you down.”
The Jhin Cena says “Only way you should lose to him is if he roams around getting fed off your team. Talon is a pretty easy match up since unlike most other Mid matchups, he's melee and can't poke you as nearly as much as someone like Ahri or Zyra. If he has you pushed up to your turret then wait until he uses his W and then Q > W > E for an early game kill. If you're 6 then you can start landing easier kills by throwing an unexpected R at him. When laning against a Talon, grab Zhonya's right after Lich Bane. Zhonya's is the best item to counter a Talon because of the activatable ability which counters his ult, as well as the armor to weaken his damage. If Talon ults a decent distance from you, then you can also try to wait it out while on your E, rather than having to waste Zhonya's.”
DaytonMcCloud says “Your only chance is to take advantage of the 9 second window on his W when he uses it to wave clear pre-6. Unless you have Gunblade, and even sometimes with it, post-6 he wins.”
hipstersora says “Melee, spam those Qs. Spam ping MIA when he roams or else he'll get fed. Ward around lane.
But if you let him get on you, he'll kill you. E-ing away doesn't help if he ulted, so try to stick to tower the best that you can... which won't be a problem if you're getting shoved in.”
YourBestSenpai says “Lane should not be too hard, but in mid game or late he might one shot you, zhonya is a must in this case, try to predict with your charm where he might go if he ults, same when he is jumping over the wall, easy to catch him.”
sutrauboju says “When your enemy team has a Talon mid, you have a task to focus at all times on his position and remind your mid laner to alert you that he is missing. Talon is a roam oriented champ and can make your lane hell if you're not careful.”
Yenwai says “Talon is the one assassin i can think of Malzahart should worry about, he has a solid ranged poke spell in rake and his roams can happen so fast he can just get the wave to stack and roam, he also has great all in and invisibility to prevent getting ulted by Malz, definetly build armguard for him early and wait for ganks as well as try to punish roams.”
Helnakensbrorsa says “Second most hardest lane. You don't win in any scenario, even if you get 5 kills, he will oneshot you when he gets 6. Play safe and ask for ganks. Don't try to kill him, just roam. ”
Swift_Trapper says “Talon is Ekko but AD
His early game is stronger but late ekko wins.
In lane dodge is w it E do the sides and then blink to him Q and AA”
Mern says “Extreme early game, outroams you, oneshots you before you react. Rush Seeker's and always signal when he goes missing, and after lvl 11 it will be free win, you outscale him.”
GlowingIcefire says “Talon is a little bit harder, but I honestly don't know, because nobody I play against ever picks talon. Be careful about his invisibility, but remember, if you ult, and then he goes invisible, you can track him with your ult daggers.”
AgreeableOtter says “Try to hit Lv 6 before him and all in him immediately after you hit 6. You need to snowball before he's unkillable because of his R.
Respect his lv 2/3 damage output because he will most likely have 2 points in W which makes him stronger than you.
Make sure you back off when you have 2 Passive stacks on you because he can kill you pretty easy with passive proc.
Quick Tip: Ignite reveals his Silhouette while in R, makes it easier to predict Q's.
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Shderen says “Talon's rework was fresh when this guide was first made in season 7, so there's a few notes to be made here. People have gotten good at Talon, but there's only so much he can do. I cannot emphasise how pivotal it is to sidestep the second hit of his W. It really slows you and gives him a free Q dash and Passive proc. This will hurt, and may lead him to killing you early if you've taken Ghost. Not to worry, you're a ranged character with very annoying poke. You can make his life hell before level 6 and he'll be wise to start with Corrupting Potion. If he starts refillable and Long Sword, you can really make it annoying for him. If you're counterganking him in bot, drop an E where he'll land from his parkour, it can make his approach much slower and even keep him in place for a while.”
HerrSolahri says “Easy Matchup. Just care for his Passiv. Never get by the W when its comming back and you ll win. The lvl 3 burst with ignite is insane!Care”
SmokeyEggs says “Never fight Talon without your W. You forcing him to fight in melee range gives him the empowered Q most of the time in trades, be wary that his damage will increase if it's the Melee part of the Q. Also outpush and outroam him since it's Talon”
vukashin.xyz says “If he hits you with his second W he will Q and auto to proc his passive bleed (this combo can kill you early)
Keep pressure with W>E>Q and eventualy all-in him
He will roam so ward and ping teammates
You can dodge his second R with your R
Use 5th rune setup”
AzureArmatt says “Talon is not only strong now but after his assassin update he became one of best snowballing champions in the game. His ability to kill enemy mid on lvl 2 is quite a treat so better not underestimate him. Play carefullly and don't let him stack his passive and try to keep vision around the map so you will know where Talon is. His kit encourage players to roam constantly so if he's good he will keep his eye on other lanes, not only mid lane. Follow him everywhere but remember... never face check the brush if you are not sure where enemy is...”
Bestlover says “In patch 9.8 Zed will become the weakest Assassin in league of Legends,so fighting a talon? He will one shot before you have a chance to do anything.”
javimc17 says “He can't do nothing against you. Stay focused on farm and poke him with E. If he engages, use your E+W to survive his combo and kill him easily with your Q+R. ”
Shaawn says “He has insane burst lvl 2-3, so don't get poked. You want to bait out his W, then you can go in for quick trades, you can take exhaust if you never played this matchup”
Enfurnal says “Talons early game is strong. Once you are hit by his W and is marked once or twice, you must keep your distance because he can just Q auto and kill you with Electrocute + Ignite. He is roaming master so if you can, always push the minion wave in so he can't roam. If he does punish him by taking mid turret. ”
NocUout says “No longer as scary as a threat, as you can dodge all his ult blades with your own ult. Just beware of his early game power, as if you get to close without your abilities he will completely destroy you. ”
thedonk says “Don't get into his melee range because his Q will crit. Back off when you are wounded and trade when his w is down. Chain him before he ults so you can determine where he is.”
Padrepio says “Assassins got buffed! Care of his level 2 power spike. You win before 6, but he can kill you if you don't pay attention after that. Don't let him get kills and you're fine. Care of his roam-style.”
overweight_zoe says “Spooky match up, his damage is pretty absurd if he gets his full combo off. Neither one of you will want to engage into the other so you'll spend most of this lane farming with q. His roams are easier to pull off than Zoe's however so make sure to spam ping your teammates.”
MaybeHope says “A great matchup for you. You can punish him because he is melee and if you have W on him you can see him when he ults. And if you predict it right you can land the mantra Q on him. However he will still be a pain in the *** because of his roaming. Be sure to ping enough for your team. At teamfights try to peel for the person he is targeting. ”
BARAL says “Pre-6, you have the typical ranged vs melee advantage over him. Try to harass him as much as you can, but watch out, his Rake can do some pretty decent damage.Once he turns level 6, be passive. If he gets any chance to jump on you, HE WILL.Taking Barrier and Exhaust is a excellent way to stop Talon.
Zhonya's Hourglass might be a good idea, if you feel you need it.”
ikiilyou7523 says “Cuidado con talon a lvl 2 rebienta a cualquier kassadin por el combo: W+Q+basico+electrocutar+pasiva de talon+ignicion=kill asegurada si te mete el combo”
Dr Wonderdrugs says “Talon sera un match compliqué puisqu'il pourra vous poke et faire très mal rapidement mais faites très attention à son level 6 car son ultime le rendra invisible et là caler une bombe est très compliqué. A la limite si vous êtes adroit servez vous d'un allié ou un sbire sur lequel vous collerez un QZQ.”
qasddsa says “Freeze the wave and run either Fleet Footwork or Grasp to survive laning phase. Respect his level 2 damage with Q and W, especially if he's taking Ignite -- you'll want to let him start pushing at level 1 to avoid this at level 2. You can match his roams after level 6 but it can be a little bit difficult if he decides to go Boots of Mobility -- but that makes him easier to kill for you since he won't have resistances.”
WhiteSheepz says “Talon is a threat as soon as he gets his ultimate, he can be bullied by Xerath until level six but past that point play more carefully. Whenever you see him ult, get ready to cast your E towards the front of you to stun him as he jumps from the blades.”
Rugie says “Don't let him use his passive on you, Try to dodge his W at level 1. Do SS whenever you don't know where he is. He has big roam and gang potential.
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Exiled Heretic says “Talon can easily trade with you because he will land his w on you almost every time. This would be when you max W and play back until he uses ult. He will roam a lot so make sure you pick where he is going and also try to follow if you think you can 1v1 him fully.”
Gambinos says “You'll beat him early and late game.
Most likely when you lane with him, he's gonna roam pretty hard.
Thing about him though is that you can block most of his ability with your WW.
His ult is useless once you WW it, same with his E.
Poke him out level 3 I recommend as you have your WW ready.
He will probably all in you as well so try lowering him first.”
Sozzoh says “Since Talon can't blink over your ult anymore, this matchup is a bit easier now. He's melee, so poke him hard, and push him and the wave under his turret so he's obligated to stay in lane to try and farm. If he is missing, warn your team and don't try to find him. He can kill you fairly easily if you're not careful.
BE CAREFUL OF HIS LEVEL 2 ALL IN!!!
I don't know what you can do at this point, just stay back and be very passive. A W-Q-AA Ignite can 100-0 you very easily. ”
Autoswitched says “Pre-6 (as usual) he can be bullied, but once he hits 6, and has at least an armor pen item, he will be looking to poke you down with his rake, and once your at least 70% hp, he will all in you and kill you. Exhaust is helpful.”
undeadsoldiers says “Talon is an assasin. You can't let him all in you. Stop him with your E. An assassin does high damage in a blink, so deny the all-in from him.”
Prenora says “Talon is the king of upclose, and his slow will keep you locked down for him to finish you off, the only saving grace is that you can keep your distance, but you'll be forced to play safe, keep an eye on your farm, dont try to harass him or get too close, just farm/poke with ardent blaze”
Witwickies says “Just make it hard to even farm. If he comes close to minions - poke. If he is low - go with all-in. Unless you let him dash to you should certainly win.”
Prenora says “Talon is a pain, his rake deals so much damage and outranges all of your abilities, play passively, zone him from cs with your bubble, but wait until he uses his abilities to use yours.”
undeadsoldiers says “Talon will primarily poke you with his W.
His burst is a major threat, though you might be able to toss a bubble at him as he tries to all-in.
Careful of his roams with E.
Suggested: Exhaust, Armguard rush”
pokeball says “His scariest point is his level 2, don't trade vs this guy or you will die and he will snowball out of control. Good Ekko players will use E to dodge his E, and trading vs talon is possible if he cant get his passive bleed off.”
Lasoor says “Can completely dominate you. Not a whole lot you can do to avoid it except stay behind your turret and dodge as much as you can. He has a lot of damage and can turret dive you at level 6. It's also hard to get a gank on him because he can normally escape.”
wo xiang zhaoo says “One mistake and you're dead. On the other hand, if you play it chill for the first 15 minutes, his team is gonna suffer. Talon needs some kills before he can pop off. Don't give him any.”
Kaeze Poulsen says “Talon can win you on early game very easily, you won't be able to win him on mid game, and on late-game you can win, but only with you team.
You can't out-roam him because he will be able to follow you being right on your back.
Ghost, Clence or Exhaust are a good opportunity,”
Eccentrik says “Ah... free jumps for days.. He roams better, bursts better, and escapes better than you. Best you stay away from him, but bully him in laning phase so he can't scale up.”
iiCrispi says “Simply counterable, all you need to do to beat him in lane after he uses all his mana since he doesn't have the best mana sustain in lane.”
Prenora says “Talon is difficult due to his rake range and cooldown as you are melee as well, though your AA's have pretty decent range, wait for him to use rake before jumping in to harass
when he hit's 6 it's best to avoid fighting him, ”
Vazikash says “Talon and any assassin with far reach can fuck you up. against melee champs you're fine, but if they get too close to you you're fucked.”
asffg123 says “Although Talon has burst and mobility, playing safe will completely counter his kit. You should have an equal laning phase.
Warning - This champion can and will roam to counter a safe playstyle. Ping accordingly.”
GeneralJ0hn27 says “It is a match up that require you to be a bit more proactive than he is, the first thing you need to do is shove the wave hard to hit lvl 2 first. As we all know Talon is responsible for 25% of first bloods so getting level 2 before him is critical because your fear makes it very easy to kill him. In the event you do die first you have to play a tad bit safer as he can snowball the lane out of control, so call for jg ganks or look to roam when your 6 for other kill opportunities.”
Frosty Bonhomme says “Talon can all-in you with you not being able to do much, you can't root him when he uses his ult and he can freely poke you. If you are against Talon, start with Doran's Ring unless you think you can beat him.”
oile says “disgusting to play against always ban this stupid champ
if u face him dont let him proc electrocute or get his q, +his w hitbox is extremely messed up”
Smol Jelly says “Talon's got your number, and he's not using it to woo you. He's mobile, got insanely high burst, and his ultimate is great for offense and defense. Rush Seeker's Armguard and ask for jungle assistance.”
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Tips Against Talon in the Jungle Tips Provided by MOBAFire Guide Authors
EUWRATS says “Try to gank him early before he gets fed from sidelanes because if he does he will invade you in your jungle and just one shot you. Super slippery try to gank him if you have a mid laner with cc or you have your R”
litecrunch says “If the enemy has a Talon mid then you have to watch out for it. It will be pretty hard to play the game because a lot of Talon and Qiyana players love roaming your jungle and will try to find you and kill you. This is especially likely to happen when your on your second buff in the beginning of the game.”
Pusi Puu says “You win early game if you can heal his burst combo with your W. Try to fight early crabs and look to invade. Early game he doesn't have enough dmg to burst you. After 6 you lose unless you are super ahead. Talon usually plays with ignite so you only heal half the dmg you would normally. If you want to get a pick on talon later on, make sure you know your dmg. If you can't oneshot him with first jump he will oneshot you afterwards.”
RedNBlue says “Talon jungle is just like qiyana jungle except for Talon jungle is better. But not when Trundle is involved then it gets down to Qiyana level.”
Rhoku says “His clear is worse than yours so you will have health advantage. Just don't get cheese by him if he takes ignite early on. He can't oneshot you, especially after you build even the tiniest amount of armor. He is free food. Dispose of him.”
Kindredgarten says “If Talon gets fed he will probably be in your jungle A LOT so try to prevent that. Just a pain in the ass if the Talon player knows what they're doing. Hard to gank if your mid has no CC too. You can prevent his burst with your ultimate though, like against any assassin.”
AST Raposo says “As enemy midlaner,Talon will always find a way to push and invade you with his jungler. There is nothing you can do if he find you. Do not change your yellow trinket, you will need it to get vision of your jungle entrances. Anything you try to do,check if talon is enough far from you or if he is farming in his lane. Gank him is not a problem at all.”
chevy the sloot says “Pray your mid laner doesn't get shoved in because he will just perma ward your jungle and then save R + ignite to solo jungle invade you. Paired this with a heavy invade jungler and you can't play. He likes to perma ward your raptors btw. Pull them to the bush and get all the chickens out of vision”
Stratogos says “He can 1shot at will but he has to use all abilities on you making you the factor on teamfights because he will all his Health trying to kill someone ”
JackM says “Try to gank him early before he gets fed from sidelanes because if he does he will invade you in your jungle and just one shot you. Super slippery try to gank him if you have a mid laner with cc or you have your R”
liserith says “Last year, Talon jungle was pretty good, but this year, its fallen off. He can still one-shot you with his combo, so respect has to be given, but if you avoid his initial burst with your R, you can live. ”
Oddirear says “Talon has high mobility and the ability to turn untargetable, combine this with his heavy burst and he's a real threat to Rek'Sai. Be sure to Flash+Unburrow him if you have bursty teammates nearby, otherwise only engage with friendly CC.”
RainbowFreeze says “Assassins are less problematic, because you can poke them, and they often can't poke you as well. You can usually live their burst with W, unless you were low already. ”
Luzyni says “Como Talon es mas Mexicano que yo, naturalmente tengo que hacer su guia en Español, banda, a lvl 2 como regla de oro, no le pelees, nadie, no solo ekko, no le peleen a talon lvl 2, les sacara la madre y los aventara a un rio, su q es como tu e, y su w como tu q, es como un match up espejo, pero tu tienes las de ganar con el escudo de la w, pues del stun sale facil, no te muevas mucho, si tira r de manera ofensiva responde con w,r o r nada mas, si la usa de escape dejalo ir, si esta casi muerto usa e flash o ignite.”
Guena says “Kendisi ad suikastçidir. Eşit şartlarda kim önce hamle yaparsa o kazanır. İnanın tek atıyor, yapmanız gereken en önemli şey ultisine yakalanmamak, mümkünse biraz takım oyunu yapmanız gerekecektir, yoksa 1-1 durumunda gayet dişli bir rakiptir. Biraz pratikle ve azıcıkda zamanlamayla korkulur bir rakip olmaktan çıkacaktır.”
Peacetoletov says “Talon's mobility allows him to get away with his hard pushing playstyle. He is hard to kill but you can easily avoid him. Never try to fight Talon 1v1 if his ultimate is ready.”
LePlay says “Typical assassin: Low life, high burst damage, vulnerable to stuns and slows. Try to block his Q with your W and smack him against the nearest terrain with your E. The only real issue with Talon is his burst attack pattern in combination with his ult, which makes him untargetable. Don´t force 1vs1´s against him in the mid/late game”
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